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This is all probably how it's going to go. Give or take a few weeks.
I'll add to your predictions and say a new ongoing 25th Century series will be announced during PIC Season 3, to replace Picard.
It's heavy on the Disco-verse.
We have Strange New Worlds (Disco spinoff), S31 (another Disco spinoff), and Starfleet Academy (yet ANOTHER Disco spinoff).
S31 and SA might've made sense back in 2019 (when they were first announced). Back then, Disco was the only thing around.
Now, the Disco-verse risks being top-heavy.
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Scheduling would be my guess. They've been trying to keep only one Trek series running at a time aside from the odd week or three overlap like what we got with Picard season 2. So with Lower Decks premiering next week that should go until October. If the rumors are true and Prodigy returns right after, that should take us all the way up to Christmas. After that, they take a break for the holidays and then launch season 3 afterwards.
Personally, I have my doubts Section 31 is ever happening. And while Starfleet Academy would technically be a Disco spinoff, it would at least be different by expanding on the 32nd century setting, whereas SNW is set in the 23rd.
I'm kind of amazed at the disassociation some people have, acting as if SNW isn't a DSC spin-off... But that's a whole other topic.
Terry has spoken fondly of directing Jeri Ryan in the final episode.
I'm assuming Seven and Raffi are going to live. It would be rather ghoulish of him to speak fondly of killing Seven off.
Starfleet Academy has already been revealed. Now, it's a matter of if they're going through with production.
So much has happened since 2019:
I'm assuming Seven and Raffi are going to live. It would be rather ghoulish of him to speak fondly of killing Seven off.
Starfleet Academy has already been revealed. Now, it's a matter of if they're going through with production.
So much has happened since 2019:
- In 2019, P+ didn't exist.
- Netflix was still licensing Trek (That's no longer the case. Everything is now on P+.)
- The CW has canceled over half its lineup (Charmed, Riverdale, Legends of Tomorrow, The Flash, BH90210, Dynasty, Batwoman ... All gone.)
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Most of the odds are going towards either Worf and/or Riker getting the axe (this is supposed the final go-round for the TNG crew).
Then again, Sir Patrick has spoken of wanting to do ANOTHER movie with the TNG crew.
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TNG is beginning to compete with Elton John and Barbra Streisand for the most farewell tours.
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You know, when I was studying drama having a death scene was considered a high point in a acting.
In Star Trek death is part of their job.
In Star Trek death is part of their job.
P+ is just a rebranding of CBSAA, so it did exist. Unless you mean outside of the USA.
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Always the plan to bring back the full cast and centre a season around them, while dispensing with most of the original PIC cast? I don't think I've ever seen that confirmed.
If so, it was even more badly structured than I first thought.
I said some of the cast, not all.
Patrick has said in the past that he wanted the show to stand on its own before bringing in any legacy TNG cast.
Even if this wasn't planned it's not exactly outrageous, save among people who have a desire to see the characters continue. To my mind, as much as I liked Elnor, or started to warm to Rios, the idea of them being moved out is less, I don't know, annoying, I guess. I mean, as many have stated, the idea of this crew sticking together makes very little sense from a plot stand point. I could argue that they would want to stay together, but the drift would happen naturally. So, to me, depending on how they bring the original cast back will make all the difference in how accepting I'll be of them returning.
I'm grateful we got Rios for as long as we did.
They killed off Hemmer after one season! 
Then again, Sir Patrick has spoken of wanting to do ANOTHER movie with the TNG crew.
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Star Trek 11: The Absolute Last Time! (We Mean It ... Really! Seriously, We Do! We're Not Kidding This Time!)
TNG is beginning to compete with Elton John and Barbra Streisand for the most farewell tours.
He has also said he’d “think about” returning for a potential fourth season of PIC. This is part of a general change that’s been going on with him regarding Star Trek tho - has said he no longer rules things out anymore. I mean I’m kinda glad, the whole “nope this is the last time I played Picard” thing happened after every TNG movie and they always got a new one and he was in it. (Granted, Nemesis almost didn’t happen because the negotiations were so terrible but eh, it happened, it counts. And if its reception hadn’t been so terrible there would have been yet ANOTHER TNG movie after it. The tagline WAS “a generation’s final journey BEGINS”, after all.) I like it better when he sits there and says “eh I’ll think about it”. I know the whole “nah not again” thing is a market value strategy but eh. Meh. He doesn’t have to do this market value strategy stuff anymore these days, he has the luxury of freely picking and choosing what projects he gives his attention to, so he might as well say “I’ll think about it” when it comes to Star Trek. It just feels more true to where he is as an actor nowadays. To me, anyway.
All that being said, this whole thing is ALSO part of a marketing strategy. Of course he’s not gonna sit there now and say “ugh never again this entire thing was a terrible ordeal”. He’s still under contract, he still has promotional obligations, and saying “meh never again” now would not be a wise marketing strategy unless it’s marketed as “this time the everything is truly final” like they did with LOGAN when it comes to him playing Professor X, but then, look at what happened there… lol. (Yes I realize that he didn’t play THAT Charles again and technically his “that ending for Xavier was perfect I have no more to say” statement still stands, but eh.) And besides, he has already said that things don’t end for Jean-Luc the way they ended for Charles, so this situation is different in that aspect.
So in the end we don’t know what’s gonna happen. I don’t think fans will demand another season of PIC tho. I think, if anything, they’ll demand a spin-off, which then opens the field WIDELY for TNG legacy character guest appearances.
It would be interesting if the Starfleet Academy show that bobs up every now and again is actually a PIC spin-off instead of a DIS spin-off (though I don't expect it would be). That would be a good way to soft-introduce the current wider state of "present" Star Trek to a younger audience while still leaving room for guest-appearances from lots of TNG-era folk.
Sure, but there's a massive difference between bringing in any legacy TNG crew and dedicating an entire season around the whole TNG cast.
If we were just getting a few cameos, or even a Nepenthe-style episode, that would fit with legacy characters being brought in after the show found its feet. Dumping most of the original cast and replacing them with the full TNG cast doesn't need the show to have stood on its own feet - it may as well be a whole new show.
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