Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x01 - "The Next Generation"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Commander Richard, Feb 15, 2023.

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  1. 10 - Excellent!

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  1. Sci

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    Most of the reviews that like Picard say that it is good, not great. But I will take it.
     
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    The full first episode is now available in the USA on the Paramount+ YouTube page:

     
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  5. cooleddie74

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    Good but not great is in the sweet spot zone. I'll take it.
     
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  6. Haggis and tatties

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    Well after watching this episode again it just dawned on my that in TNG episode Conspiracy, she warned Picard to set his phaser to kill as stun had no effect, so this could the reason why she is killing them, assuming it turns out to be those creatures and their masters.
     
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  9. Paul Weaver

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    Re-watched Conspiracy this evening. No reason at all.

    Makes me wonder how things would have changed without the writers strike. TNG was somewhat advanced in story arcs -- threads sewn in Coming Of Age, which were picked up in Conspiracy, then there was the missing outputs in The Neutral Zone, I wonder if that was going to be linked in. (Coming of Age also referred back to previous episodes like where no one has gone before, justice, the battle and more)

    It was Crusher that blasted Quinn in the first place. Several times. Crusher also informed Picard to use Kill as Stun had no effect. And that was with the little bluegills, by the time it came to dealing with Remmick both Picard and Riker had to fire a sustained shot for a significant amount of time, to the point that the body exploded, and even that didn't fully kill the "Mother Creature", there was then more sustained shots (presumably at maximum power) to get rid of the one in Merrick's body.

    (The stop motion of the bluegill climbing up Remmick's leg wasn't great)

    The final shot was a red nebula.

    Full marks to the picture of Saturn in Starfleet headquarters too. Watched a video the other day about how you often get artist impressions of Saturn from a moon which has the rings fully visible rather than edge-on. As all the moons close enough to Saturn are within a couple of degrees of the rings you would only see them edge-on, which is what the picture showed.
     
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  10. saddestmoon

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    Hi Peeps

    Just watched first ep on Amazon Prime - and I liked it a lot!

    Loving the music, the cinematic ‘feel’ this episode had, and the mystery…

    Can’t wait for ep 2!

    PS: gave this a 9
     
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    I'm in England and understand every word written by American TV and American trekbbs members.
     
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    I watch some British game shows from time to time and understand it fine.

    It would be nice if we would stop pretending like Star Trek is some far off ethereal piece of fiction that can't be touched by us plebes with our dirty English language and recognize it being a contemporary TV show which is writte for contemporary audiences and will use contemporary slang.

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    To be honest, speaking as a partially hearing impaired American, I sometimes have trouble understanding the characters on Doctor Who, but I think that's more of an accent thing than a language thing. :guffaw:
     
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    English is insanely easy to understand

     
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    Jeremy be like: "I know some of these words."
     
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    [*Laughs in Liam Gallagher*]
     
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    Is it possible that Beverly's phaser rifle is a federation knockoff that she & jack have acquired and had to heavily modify to make it work?
     
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    Sorry- multi-edit, I am out of forum practice these days...

    I checked EF2 - the Federation Assault Rifle does indeed have a pump grip on it, which is used to reload having fired all your 'loaded' shots. This is what Matalas is thinking of. You don't, however, have to pump it each time you fire.

    I'm more disappointed with the justification than the pump-action thing itself. Despite what Matalas says it's not some outdated weapon we haven't seen before, it's literally a 'Type B' First Contact style phaser rifle that they've bodged a pump grip and round counter onto. I thought that if he tried to justify it at all, it would be as a Starfleet phaser rifle that they had modified for <insert reasons>. Even Nemesis only hinted at the "lock and load" thing with the interactive phaser props that Logan insisted upon, but they felt like a better fit for Trek to me than a literally pump-action phaser rifle in spaaaaaaaaaaaace.

    And yes, the 'Assault Phaser' (as Trekyards spotted Jack is wielding a take on the same hand phaser design in episode 1 also), is the closest to this we've seen - it even had a power pack in the grip as well as the "cocking" action. It's about as daft as the pump-action, but wasn't dwelt upon in the final cut of the movie, whereas this is front and centre. It's fine, it's just a sticking point for those of us that love the technology.
     
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