Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x08 - "Mercy"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Commander Richard, Apr 20, 2022.

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  1. Lord Exor

    Lord Exor Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Yes, in that case the other alternative is to kill the Queen for good, free her drones, and call it a day (see: "Endgame"). Shelve the Borg, which to be honest, is probably what will happen when/if Jurati changes them anyway, just like the Dominion after Odo.
     
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  2. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Arguably The Best Poster Named cooleddie Moderator

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    At least in ENT they changed the Borg a little by not having a drone we could sympathize with, a spokesperson for the Collective and they even avoided having the drones call themselves Borg. They were cold, menacing and the scariest they've been since "Dark Frontier(VOY)" and arguably FC. Some people still complain that B&B pulled the "don't have them mention who they are" ploy to fit the Borg into continuity and still leave humans unaware of their identity but it...sorta worked. It's a solid episode of that series and a creepy one.
     
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  3. jackoverfull

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    Contrived as it was, on that enterprise episode the borg were probably as scary as in early TNG and far from how lame they had become on voyager. While doing something that should have failed on every account (see the ferengi episode…) they managed to do everything quite right and produce a little masterpiece.
     
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    cooleddie74 Arguably The Best Poster Named cooleddie Moderator

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    "They told their homeworld how to find Earth."

    Almost 19 years later it's still a creepy moment that foreshadows what's to come in Picard's time.
     
  5. Kevman7987

    Kevman7987 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    The Borg didn't identify themselves by name in Q Who either. Guinan told the crew what they're called.
     
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    The only thing that bothered me was that they took like 9 shots from primitive phase pistols until they adapted, and that everything about the Borg was totally to the TNG crew - but maybe a random fire at the classified data storage building destroyed all these records :D

    It's how regular people usually talk, especially online. This is the best coffee I've ever had!! I LOVE this song/actor/food/video/etc.!!! I HATE that other one! It's usually not a permanent, or even very long-lasting opinion. And how many things people say they LOVE are actually of strong romantic/erotic/emotional interest to them, and how many things people say they HATE would they seriously wanna see brutally destroyed? People with opinions in between, finding stuff just average, mediocre, don't even feel the need to post a lot about it. You can write walls of love text or walls of hate text, but it's hard to come up with walls of shrugging I-don't-really-care text ;)

    Could've been a rescued Borg baby, Boims was practicing that :D
     
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  7. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Arguably The Best Poster Named cooleddie Moderator

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    Yeah, they did resist 22nd century phase pistol blasts too easily. I guess in-universe you could conjecture that the drones were cut off from the wider Collective and thus slower to respond to external weapons.
     
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  8. fireproof78

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    Still stupid, inane, imprecise and poor language. Basically lying.
     
  9. Lord Exor

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    The Borg honestly never felt all that intimidating to me until their revamp in First Contact.
     
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  10. Enterprise is Great

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    I liked this one. 8
     
  11. jackoverfull

    jackoverfull Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Speaking of hyperboles!
    to me the scariest they were was in the first two episodes (Q Who and BoBW), then they went downhill. Sure, they looked much better in First Contact, but the Queen removed a lot of the scariness.
     
  12. fireproof78

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    Calling something "best ever" because internet is lying. But I suppose we wouldn't have such dynamic conversations with the dramatic statements.
    Pretty much.
     
  13. jackoverfull

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    it’s merely exaggerating, as spock teaches. ;)
     
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    I think I got pulled out of that feeling of creepiness by the idea of Phlox, a doctor two hundred years less advanced than Crusher, being able to figure out the existence and function of nanoprobes and then destroy them all and stop his own assimilation. That idea makes sense as an escalation of the Doctor's research from VOY, that the next step in combating the Borg would be finding a way to stop assimilation as it's happening -- but to have it come from a 22nd Century doctor instead of a 24th Century doctor just felt contrived to me.
     
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  15. fireproof78

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    Ah, and that makes communication easier?
     
  16. jackoverfull

    jackoverfull Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    No, but most people don’t take literally everything they read on the internet.

    Wow, that this needs explaining is killing me!
     
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  17. fireproof78

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    I do.

    Sorry.

    Legitimately. I prefer precise language for the most part. I enjoy hyperbole and sarcasm but when asked I prefer precision.
     
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  18. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Admiral Premium Member

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    So, you're German, then?
     
  19. fireproof78

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    Very.
     
  20. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Admiral Premium Member

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    I KNEW IT!