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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x09 - "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1"

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Looks good on my end.........got rid of early vote and they should be public now.
That is odd, because I'd previously looked into making the votes public for the 1x08 thread, and didn't (and still don't, just checked) see the option available. Is there a trick I'm missing?
 
It will be difficult to identify them all, something else is needed to draw them out.

Ideally the best way would be for the truth to come out and show that the fear is unwarranted, it would then all fall apart.

It is no accident that the Commodore and Picard have not met yet, she is the one he needs to convince so she will give up all the others.

There are two ways to do that, show her she is wrong or raise the stakes to the point where she has to go all in.

Thing is if there is already a planet full of synths then its already too late and the big bad is probably already on its way.

We may not see a battle between Starfleet/Borg Cube and the Romulans at all, it could end up being everyone vs the big bad.

Which would then prove the Zhat Vash to be right, it will also prove that they are completely useless and after all the deaths they failed anyway.
It all could go any different direction. The Romulan fleet “feels” like bad guys. Whoever they fear for all we know could be good guys. Why would there be a vision of Data in a 200,000 year old vision? It’s all still very much up in the air. We think we know who is good and who is evil, but that doesn’t meet that’s the actual situation that will happen.
 
It all could go any different direction. The Romulan fleet “feels” like bad guys. Whoever they fear for all we know could be good guys. Why would there be a vision of Data in a 200,000 year old vision? It’s all still very much up in the air. We think we know who is good and who is evil, but that doesn’t meet that’s the actual situation that will happen.
Its just as likely that its too late and we are given a quick peak at exactly what the Zhat Vash are so afraid of.

I doubt most of the Romulan ships realise that they are working for the Zhat Vash, even Zhaban thought they were a myth.
 
I could be wrong, but I suspect the planet is called Coppélius, which is the name of a doctor who creates a living, life-size doll in the 1870 ballet Coppélia: The Girl with the Enamel Eyes.

In the ballet, a young man and woman are about to get married, but the man becomes enamored with another woman, the titular Coppélia, who he sees sitting very still on a balcony of a house. What follows is a plot in which the boy tries to reach Coppélia, while the girl tries to prove that she is fake. Eventually, Dr. Coppélius invites the young man into the house because he needs a human sacrifice to give Coppélia the gift of life. At this point, the girl masquerades as Coppélia come alive and whisks the boy to safety. A saddened Dr. Coppélius discovers that his creation is lifeless.
 
Our first look at the Android Home World...

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Why the heck this building reminds me of Alara's father's house in 'The Orville"? (BTW he's played by Robert Picardo)
 
Thing is if there is already a planet full of synths then its already too late and the big bad is probably already on its way.

We may not see a battle between Starfleet/Borg Cube and the Romulans at all, it could end up being everyone vs the big bad.
I'm thinking that the "Big Bad" is actually not another Entity, but ends up being "Ourselves" fighting each other.

We have the Romulan Fleet, the La Sirena, Narek in his fighter, the Star Fleet Squadron and Seven with the Cube all possibly converging in one place...

Looks like a battle is brewing to me.

But I'll bet 100 Quatloos that Jean-Luc manages to stave off enormous losses on all sides with a speech.
:biggrin:
 
I don't believe there was a squadron waiting for Picard and company at DS12. My intuition tells me that if the La Sirena had gone there, it would be game over, with PIcard confined and Soji in the custody of Starfleet Security, where there would be an "accident" resulting in her death. For me, it was confirmed when we saw Narek's snakehead. He got information on where they were.

So, we have:
* The androids on the planet, plus whatever ships and orbital defenses they have
* The Romulan (Tal Shair/Zhat Vash) fleet
* The La Sirena
* The Borg cube, with Seven in command
 
For me, it was confirmed when we saw Narek's snakehead. He got information on where they were.
Who told Narek?
Picard and Crew decided not to go to DS-12 after he already talked to Clancy.
And Narissa was fighting for her life at that moment.
Even if Rizzo probably did inform Commodore Oh, I don't think the Commodore knows how to get in touch with Narek.

If Clancy doubts Jean-Luc and tells Commodore Oh what she now knows, that just means the Fleet Squadron will show up to stop Picard instead of to help him.
 
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Why not? They are military officers and it is their duty to report their successes and their failures. And, with the resources of the Federation and Starfleet, Commorode Oh could locate the La Sirena and send that information to Narek.
 
Why not? They are military officers and it is their duty to report their successes and their failures. And, with the resources of the Federation and Starfleet, Commorode Oh could locate the La Sirena and send that information to Narek.
During their conversation early in the season, Oh strongly implied that Narissa's continued existence depended on her and Narek not fucking up again. Not much incentive there to be forthcoming.
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I'm thinking that the "Big Bad" is actually not another Entity, but ends up being "Ourselves" fighting each other.

We have the Romulan Fleet, the La Sirena, Narek in his fighter, the Star Fleet Squadron and Seven with the Cube all possibly converging in one place...

Looks like a battle is brewing to me.

But I'll bet 100 Quatloos that Jean-Luc manages to stave off enormous losses on all sides with a speech.
:biggrin:

Do you think the Starfleet Squadron be led by the Enterprise-E, commanded by Captain Worf? If the faceoff happens toward the end of part 1 finale, the Enterprise and the Squadron arrival might be one of the cliffhangers....
 
Don't know if spoiler, but in Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 2, (but not in part 1) Rambda is set to appear and if we recall, she is still on the Borg cube which is now fully functional with nowhere to go..

Along with Seven and Elnor. By that time Seven might've restored power to the Borg Cube and somehow arrives at the planet, just before the clash between the different fleets mentioned above....
 
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