I feel Spiner is basically playing Arik Soong again. It’s essentially the same character?
I think Sutra is the destroyer...
I think Sutra is the destroyer...
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x09 - "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1"
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The Soongs are either lovable eccentrics or dangerous eccentrics. There doesn't seem to be any in-between.
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It will take time for the fleet to get there though.
Its possible that the big bad will destroy the Romulan fleet before Starfleet even gets there.
A lot depends on the Soji copy who wants to call for help, which would make her the Destroyer not Soji, perhaps Narek has realised this which would explain the trailer, we can't be sure who was responsible for the eye stabbing, from the pictures I have seen both Narek and Sutra are there.
It really is a self fulfilling prophecy after all, the Commodore should not have been so foolish as to give Jurati the information, Jurati then just happened to give it to exactly the wrong person.
Also I do like the look of the ship the Commodore is on, its hard to judge size although it looks bigger than the other ships stationed around it, it doesn't look as big as a D'Deridex but that could simply be due to the lack of windows.
The rest of the ships in the Romulan fleet could be their answer to the Defiant class in size and firepower which would make the Commodores ship smaller than the D'Deridex.
Yup. I think the Zhat Vash mistook Dahj and Soji for Sutra. I think Soji is this series' Data, then Sutra is this series' Lore.
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From the pics I have seen and comments made its pretty much a certainty at this point and I think Narek knows it too.
The Federation ships will show up most likely. The Rangers too. We dont know how many ships they have. They were given a device that fixes things, if you use your imagination. Whatever that means. The Cube might be able to get weapons back at least. We will see. Narek is headed for the Cube. I still think he has some connection to the Borg.
And of course the "admonition" could be from some beings like the "god" in ST V. And like Sybok, Sutra may not like what they come to say if it gets that far.
And of course the "admonition" could be from some beings like the "god" in ST V. And like Sybok, Sutra may not like what they come to say if it gets that far.
Maybe Altan Inigo Soong is Lore. And those higher synths show up with Data in tow.
Data: Admiral, greetings. It is good to see you again. I have spent the last 20 years with higher level synthetic beings. I had known about the Admonition for years, but had to keep silent due to the dangers to artificial life. However, at the Battle of the Bassen Rift, I made a distress signal using the Admonition's subspace frequencies and was saved just before the thalaron generator was destroyed.
Picard: Fascinating.
There's no such thing as an in-between with eccentrics.
Alton Inigo is "A.I." if you use initials.
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Like I said before, when creating synths its not surprising that sooner or later one of the twins will be bad.
So now we have seen 4 of them.
Dahj
Soji
Jana
Sutra
That means there is still one to go if the cards we saw in the first episode are correct.
Excuse me...Wouldn't be surprised if Q shows up during the next episode to reveal that what he put Picard through in AGT was to prepare him for the Romulan/Synth/Tkon? crisis...
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Thing is, if the Intergalactic Intelligence stepped in to save the Synthetics last time then where are they.
Perhaps its a trap, in which case the Intelligence will turn up and try to kill everyone regardless of origin.
Perhaps its a trap, in which case the Intelligence will turn up and try to kill everyone regardless of origin.
Wouldn't be surprised if Q shows up during the next episode to reveal that what he put Picard through in AGT was to prepare him for the Romulan/Synth/Tkon? crisis...
That's what certain people would want to see. The ones who want eighth season TNG as if it were produced for the 1994-'95 TV Season. So it's guaranteed that's not what's going to happen.
How long is the finale? 65 minutes?
I can 100% see Soong naming his biological child that just because.
I could also see *all* of the Soongs we've seen being clones of the 22nd century criminal genetic engineer...
I mean, yes, Starfleet security screwed up big time allowing an infiltrator to reach a high enough rank to exploit in such a devastatingly deadly way. I was just making the point that the order to commit murder came from the Zhat Vash, it wasn't an official Starfleet command decision.
First review (of those sources I remotely care about). Basically the opposite of what I felt about this ep, but nevertheless fun to watch:
ETA: Actually, I do agree with her about the Seven/ cube storyline.
ETA: Actually, I do agree with her about the Seven/ cube storyline.
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Its too soon for Q, I will not be surprised if we see him right at the end waiting for Picard, they have yet to conclude their business.
Assuming he doesn't get a new body, I cant see it myself although some of the dialogue does point in that direction but Patrick Stewart can't play a younger version of himself, just as Brent Spiner can't.
The show runners could go for a full CGI Data or Picard if they wanted to, its not as expensive as it used to be and all the actors would have to do is add their voice.
There is no doubt that new body will be used in some way sooner or later.
I don't have a problem with Q appearing at the end of Picard's life. That makes sense in terms of the character. But definitely not to get him out of the mess he's in. That's too much like the end of "Sacrifice of Angels", when the Prophets bailed out Sisko, which was dicey itself.
Yeah. They laid on that Picard's dying really thick. Like I said before. I feel like Picard will be transferred into the android body. I'm not sure what I think of that. Or it might be Jurati. They can punish her for killing Maddox and keep the character in the series at the same time. I don't know what I think of that either. But I think those are the two most likely candidates.
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