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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x08 - "Broken Pieces"

Rate Episode 1x08 "Broken Pieces"

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Dammit.

Well, thanks for clearing that up. Sigh.

He would have deserved it for that episode. :(
 
Because I'm not a fan of social politics being shoehorned into Star Trek, and it is being shoehorned, especially on Discovery, but also seemingly Picard. It's so obvious and forced that it's off-putting, to me, that's all. It doesn't help that I find Discovery's writing to be so comically bad that them cramming in as many gay/black/female characters into the show even more misguided. Just focus on a good story guys, less on the identity politics. We'll see what Picard's season finale is like.

But we're going round in circles now, so consider it dropped, from me at least.
To quote the Piranha Bros. sketch on Another Monty Python Album

Sorry squire, I just scratched the record
(pop)
Sorry squire, I just scratched the record
(pop)
Sorry squire, I just scratched the record
(pop)
Sorry squire, I just scratched the record
(pop)
Sorry squire, I just scratched the record
(pop)

And on and on and on...
 
Untrue. An engineering background is actually preferred for command of nuclear vessels.
Thus explaining why Kelvin Kirk promoted Chekov to engineering in STID, allowing him to best pursue "nuclear wessels" in Alameida. Convergence of prime and Kelvinverse CONFIRMED!@#!$!!!!!
 
Lol. It's like you've never seen Star Trek.

Previous Star Trek does it properly.

Discovery and Picard go for the sledgehammer approach to make it so glaring and noticeable that it's off-putting. I don't understand how many times I need to convey that for people to understand the point I'm trying to make.
 
So, you've never watched TOS, TNG or DS9?

Nothing in those as obvious as 4 out of 5 characters on screen being either female, black, or gay. Like I said, I get it, social justice virtue signalling is the world we live in at the moment, I've just never seen it as glaring as these shows. Anyway I thought we were moving on...
 
Oh, because Star Trek has never tackled gender, race or sexuality?
Have you seen TOS, TNG or DS9

How obtuse can you be.

TOS, TNG and DS9 tackled these things as storylines and asked interesting questions.
Discovery and Picard are just casting based on gender, skin colour and sexuality.

You can't compare the two.
 
How obtuse can you be.

TOS, TNG and DS9 tackled these things as storylines and asked interesting questions.
Discovery and Picard are just casting based on gender, skin colour and sexuality.

You can't compare the two.

What's wrong with casting women, people of color and telling stories involving said people?
It's not like women, people of color and gay people don't exist in the world.

And, you're right, I shouldn't compare TOS, DS9, TNG with modern shows. It's not like there could be an openly gay character in the 60s, barely we could have one in the 1990s. Good thing we've moved past such silliness. Like, who gets upset about a gay character on TV? Like, how gauche can you get?
 
What's wrong with casting women, people of color and telling stories involving said people?
It's not like women, people of color and gay people don't exist in the world.

And, you're right, I shouldn't compare TOS, DS9, TNG with modern shows. It's not like there could be an openly gay character in the 60s, barely we could have one in the 1990s. Good thing we've moved past such silliness. Like, who gets upset about a gay character on TV? Like, how gauche can you get?

I am gay. I'm not white. I'm also not upset. I know people like you like to paint people like me as whining and upset, but I'm nothing like that. I just find the showrunners' antics cringeworthy and lame, that's all. How they're tripping over themselves to be relevant in an SJW world, and show as many women authority figures as possible, usually belittling men, or dozens of black Romulans all of a sudden, or three gay characters on the Discovery crew.

In other words, the sledgehammer approach. That's my point. Very simple.
 
What's wrong with casting women, people of color and telling stories involving said people?
It's not like women, people of color and gay people don't exist in the world.

And, you're right, I shouldn't compare TOS, DS9, TNG with modern shows. It's not like there could be an openly gay character in the 60s, barely we could have one in the 1990s. Good thing we've moved past such silliness. Like, who gets upset about a gay character on TV? Like, how gauche can you get?

What do you think a Eugenics war was?

Unfavorable traits were identified and excised.

Khan's test tube, would have been filled in the 1940s, if Ricardo and Khan are both 47 when we met him, although I remember Greg's novel putting that conception, in a lab in the 60s? The comics said that he was a regular dude until as a teenager he got upgrades. Point is, the further back you go, the more "out" racist sexist homophobes were about their bad theories.

Was Khan aging faster than regular people, or did he just skip child hood... Which is why he was 25 years old but looked like he was in his 40s during the Space Seed? Because the technology to make him, can't have existed in the 1940s.

The irony.

40 buff dudes, isolated alone on a planet, and they only have each other to bone, and none of them have the gay gene (imaginary fake star trek science) to really enjoy all that gay sex they had to have been having to entertain themselves on Seti Alpha 6.

How many women did Kirk send to the surface?

3?

In a hundred years, if you went to see what became of that space seed Jim, what you will see is a village of inbred cousin fuckers.
 
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I am gay. I'm not white. I'm also not upset. I know people like you like to paint people like me as whining and upset, but I'm nothing like that. I just find the showrunners' antics cringeworthy and lame, that's all. How they're tripping over themselves to be relevant in an SJW world, and show as many women authority figures as possible, usually belittling men, or dozens of black Romulans all of a sudden, or three gay characters on the Discovery crew.

Weird. Producers of a tv show wanting to reflect the viewing audience.

Isn't relevance a good thing? It’s show business, not show irrelevance.

oh, and I never said you were upset. It isn’t always about you.

In other words, the sledgehammer approach. That's my point. Very simple.

Nothing like say... having a character painted half white and half black hating a group that has the reverse pattern. That was subtle!
 
How obtuse can you be.

TOS, TNG and DS9 tackled these things as storylines and asked interesting questions.
Discovery and Picard are just casting based on gender, skin colour and sexuality.

You can't compare the two.
I get it, casting human white, hetero males is normal, casting anything outside that bracket is social justice virtue signalling....which is bad cos the whole universe knows the definition of human being is white hetero male. Everyone else are 'honorary' human beings.
As for aliens, in universe Starfleet's mission was to seek out new white looking aliens and civilisations and to boldly colonise whatever was not colonised before.
No wonder the Cardassians, Klingons and Romulans were pissed off.
 
I get it, casting human white, hetero males is normal, casting anything outside that bracket is social justice virtue signalling....which is bad cos the whole universe knows the definition of human being is white hetero male. Everyone else are 'honorary' human beings.
As for aliens, in universe Starfleet's mission was to seek out new white looking aliens and civilisations and to boldly colonise whatever was not colonised before.
No wonder the Cardassians, Klingons and Romulans were pissed off.

Please stop completely missing the point and putting words in my mouth. That opening sentence of your post is just ridiculous, and not anywhere close to what I'm saying here.

It isn’t always about you.

Excuse me? You're the one who keeps referring to me specifically...

It's like you've never seen Star Trek.
Have you seen TOS, TNG or DS9?
So, you've never watched TOS, TNG or DS9?
Like, who gets upset about a gay character on TV? Like, how gauche can you get?

and then when I refer to my feelings on the matter you say "it's not about you" :rolleyes:
 
Excuse me? You're the one who keeps referring to me specifically...

and then when I refer to my feelings on the matter you say "it's not about you" :rolleyes:

Sure, I was referring to your experience of watching Star Trek in all of its forms.
I didn't say you were upset about having gay characters in Star Trek. Are you upset there are gay characters in Star Trek?
 
I believe that bisexuality in the future will be the very boring new normal, which will make both gay and straight equally Conservative and exclusionary.
 
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