I wanna be free.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x08 - "Broken Pieces"
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Protip: That wasn't supposed to have an effect on you. Rhetorical moves like that are made for the other people in the audience; the point is to make you look ridiculous to them.
Take the last train to Clarksville.
It'd probably help if you could explain why Reno was a problem for you. You're coming across as a crazy homophobe because there's no other apparent reason to have a problem with Reno.. If it's any different from someone in 1966 saying "I'm not a racist, but why did they have to force a black woman on the bridge crew," you'll have to show what the difference is.
Edit: Honestly, TOS makes all other editions of Trek look like weaksauce, SJW-wise. When TOS launched racial integration was the issue in US politics, with gender integration coming up fast. And TOS was as far on the SJW side of the issue as the network would let it be. We don't see this because the SJWs of that era won such a total victory that nobody wants to remember that the other side even existed anymore.
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Protip: Don't keep something going that a mod stepped in and told the posters involved to stop.
And adding to the name-calling to boot. Knock it off.
Sorry about the latter (hadn't seen your warning when I composed the former). I was attempting to engage in a criticism of the posting style, but yeah, that wasn't a constructive framing.
I already got my ticket from Valleri.
Rizzo wasn't a real starfleet officer. She's a Romulan named Narissa. And we were talking about officers who were actually important to the show, so if you can't even remember this other character's name (and I don't even remember his existence off the top of my head) then he clearly doesn't qualify.
Reality has nothing to do with fiction. And even sailing past the obvious non-reality of a franchise called Star Trek set hundreds of years in the future with technology that may as well be magic and aliens that look just like humans, the reality is that women (in societies that don't brutally oppress them) typically outnumber men (women biologically make up about 51% of births and usually live longer than men). The reality is that the vast majority of people in existence come nowhere near the créme da la créme status in ability, education, etc, that we automatically expect from Starfleet officers. The reality is that there is no logical reason whatsoever why there would never be 3 gay people serving together at the same time on a ship with hundreds of people aboard. The reality is that statistically improbable coincidences happen ALL the time and very, very few things ever actually just settle down to a perfect, neat 50/50 ratio between men and women because every project or team that exists consists of a limited number of specific people which automatically opens the door to variation in one direction or the other.
And the reality is that neither Discovery nor Picard is anywhere near 80% focused on women. And the reality is that they're the only two series in Star Trek history to get even a little bit over 50% while pretty much every other Trek series has been more leaning towards men than either of these does toward women. And the reality is that Discovery and Picard are neither the most female-leaning shows in existence nor are they representative of an overwhelming wave of pro-female content because the vast majority of shows are still more focused on men than women even today, so this 'sjw-crusade' bullshit remains ridiculously out of touch with reality.
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I've been really getting a déjà vu reading this thread lately... whenever I try to reply with anything, I realize I already participated in this exact same discussion over in the "What eventually happens to Nhan?" thread in the Discovery forum, and everything I said there about my frustration over this whole culture war thing would still be applicable here.
So what? Just because she's gay in real life doesn't mean she has to be on the show. That's literally the whole point of being a professional actor.
Figure of speech.
Let's talk recurring characters outside of the main cast in season 2, who've had more than a couple of lines here or there:
Female:
Georgiou
Cornwell
Detmer
Owo
Airiam
Nhan
L'Rell
Amanda
Doctor Kashkooli
May
Admiral Patar
75% of the Enterprise bridge
Male:
Leland
Sarek
Like I said, it doesn't offend me, I don't lie in bed at night getting angry at the above, I shrug it off just like I shrug Discovery's terrible, unlikeable characters and even worse writing, but don't say that Discovery doesn't push female characters more than male ones because it's simply not true.
The 18 executive producers on that show have their priorities all mixed up. Why not actually develop Culber and make him something other than a gay billboard walking around? Develop him into something memorable and compelling that people love first, gay second.
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Obvi.
Sure.
And this is the part where I further advise that we have an entire forum dedicated to bitching about Discovery. This one isn't it.
Ok back to Picard, I watched the latest episode after posting the above. Bet people anything they want the advanced synthetic life next week will be represented by a woman (same as Starfleet Security, the Qowat Milat, the Zhat Vash, Freecloud, and now this AI complex). And have male servants doing her bidding, like this week. 
Then what are you doing hanging 'round? You should be on that train and gone.
I watched the latest episode after posting the above. Bet people anything they want the advanced synthetic life next week will be represented by a woman (same as Starfleet Security, the Qowat Milat, the Zhat Vash, Freecloud, and now this AI complex). And have male servants doing her bidding, like this week.
Good. Not seeing the problem here. If I want male centered Trek I have 50+ years to go back and review.Ok back to Picard, I watched the latest episode after posting the above. Bet people anything they want the advanced synthetic life next week will be represented by a woman (same as Starfleet Security, the Qowat Milat, the Zhat Vash, Freecloud, and now this AI complex). And have male servants doing her bidding, like this week.
Also, I wasn't aware that Soong was a female?
This is all so horrible. What's next? The Borg led by a female? The Founders of the Dominion choosing a female to represent them? The Ferengi Alliance led by a woman behind the scenes to cover for the senility of the Grand Nagus? The Bajorans having a female Kai? The horror!
Two wrongs don't make a right.
