Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x08 - "Broken Pieces"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by pst, Mar 5, 2020.

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Rate Episode 1x08 "Broken Pieces"

  1. 10 - Fenris Rangers

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  2. 9

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  3. 8

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  10. 1 - Power Rangers

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  1. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Dammit.

    Well, thanks for clearing that up. Sigh.

    He would have deserved it for that episode. :(
     
  2. Maurice

    Maurice ATARI CX5200 Premium Member

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    To quote the Piranha Bros. sketch on Another Monty Python Album

    Sorry squire, I just scratched the record
    (pop)
    Sorry squire, I just scratched the record
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    Sorry squire, I just scratched the record
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    Sorry squire, I just scratched the record
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    Sorry squire, I just scratched the record
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    And on and on and on...
     
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  3. Ovation

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    Thus explaining why Kelvin Kirk promoted Chekov to engineering in STID, allowing him to best pursue "nuclear wessels" in Alameida. Convergence of prime and Kelvinverse CONFIRMED!@#!$!!!!!
     
  4. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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  5. Professor Zoom

    Professor Zoom Admiral Admiral

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    Lol. It's like you've never seen Star Trek.
     
  6. Kpnuts

    Kpnuts Commodore Commodore

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    Previous Star Trek does it properly.

    Discovery and Picard go for the sledgehammer approach to make it so glaring and noticeable that it's off-putting. I don't understand how many times I need to convey that for people to understand the point I'm trying to make.
     
  7. Professor Zoom

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    So, you've never watched TOS, TNG or DS9?
     
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  8. Kpnuts

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    Nothing in those as obvious as 4 out of 5 characters on screen being either female, black, or gay. Like I said, I get it, social justice virtue signalling is the world we live in at the moment, I've just never seen it as glaring as these shows. Anyway I thought we were moving on...
     
  9. Professor Zoom

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    Oh, because Star Trek has never tackled gender, race or sexuality?
    Have you seen TOS, TNG or DS9?


    We? I never said such a thing. You are free to do as you wish.
     
  10. Kpnuts

    Kpnuts Commodore Commodore

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    How obtuse can you be.

    TOS, TNG and DS9 tackled these things as storylines and asked interesting questions.
    Discovery and Picard are just casting based on gender, skin colour and sexuality.

    You can't compare the two.
     
  11. Professor Zoom

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    What's wrong with casting women, people of color and telling stories involving said people?
    It's not like women, people of color and gay people don't exist in the world.

    And, you're right, I shouldn't compare TOS, DS9, TNG with modern shows. It's not like there could be an openly gay character in the 60s, barely we could have one in the 1990s. Good thing we've moved past such silliness. Like, who gets upset about a gay character on TV? Like, how gauche can you get?
     
  12. Kpnuts

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    I am gay. I'm not white. I'm also not upset. I know people like you like to paint people like me as whining and upset, but I'm nothing like that. I just find the showrunners' antics cringeworthy and lame, that's all. How they're tripping over themselves to be relevant in an SJW world, and show as many women authority figures as possible, usually belittling men, or dozens of black Romulans all of a sudden, or three gay characters on the Discovery crew.

    In other words, the sledgehammer approach. That's my point. Very simple.
     
  13. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Dozens? There's been what, three? And besides, the world has moved on from 1994 when the black actor cast as the Romulan commander in The Pegasus was put in white face because "there are no black Romulans" despite black Vulcans being a thing.
     
  14. Guy Gardener

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    What do you think a Eugenics war was?

    Unfavorable traits were identified and excised.

    Khan's test tube, would have been filled in the 1940s, if Ricardo and Khan are both 47 when we met him, although I remember Greg's novel putting that conception, in a lab in the 60s? The comics said that he was a regular dude until as a teenager he got upgrades. Point is, the further back you go, the more "out" racist sexist homophobes were about their bad theories.

    Was Khan aging faster than regular people, or did he just skip child hood... Which is why he was 25 years old but looked like he was in his 40s during the Space Seed? Because the technology to make him, can't have existed in the 1940s.

    The irony.

    40 buff dudes, isolated alone on a planet, and they only have each other to bone, and none of them have the gay gene (imaginary fake star trek science) to really enjoy all that gay sex they had to have been having to entertain themselves on Seti Alpha 6.

    How many women did Kirk send to the surface?

    3?

    In a hundred years, if you went to see what became of that space seed Jim, what you will see is a village of inbred cousin fuckers.
     
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  15. Professor Zoom

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    Weird. Producers of a tv show wanting to reflect the viewing audience.

    Isn't relevance a good thing? It’s show business, not show irrelevance.

    oh, and I never said you were upset. It isn’t always about you.

    Nothing like say... having a character painted half white and half black hating a group that has the reverse pattern. That was subtle!
     
  16. Nerys Myk

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    Subtle has never really been in Trek's creative wheelhouse. :lol: Sledgehammers, anvils and bricks OTOH.
    Trek has always had a mandate to be inclusive. Though originally it came from advertisers, who realized way back in the 60's that POC had money!
     
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  17. Nyotarules

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    I get it, casting human white, hetero males is normal, casting anything outside that bracket is social justice virtue signalling....which is bad cos the whole universe knows the definition of human being is white hetero male. Everyone else are 'honorary' human beings.
    As for aliens, in universe Starfleet's mission was to seek out new white looking aliens and civilisations and to boldly colonise whatever was not colonised before.
    No wonder the Cardassians, Klingons and Romulans were pissed off.
     
  18. Kpnuts

    Kpnuts Commodore Commodore

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    Please stop completely missing the point and putting words in my mouth. That opening sentence of your post is just ridiculous, and not anywhere close to what I'm saying here.

    Excuse me? You're the one who keeps referring to me specifically...

    and then when I refer to my feelings on the matter you say "it's not about you" :rolleyes:
     
  19. Professor Zoom

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    Sure, I was referring to your experience of watching Star Trek in all of its forms.
    I didn't say you were upset about having gay characters in Star Trek. Are you upset there are gay characters in Star Trek?
     
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  20. Guy Gardener

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    I believe that bisexuality in the future will be the very boring new normal, which will make both gay and straight equally Conservative and exclusionary.