Clearly we need more male characters who bench press their own testes and quote wrestling lines. You have failed us, Kurtzman.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x08 - "Broken Pieces"
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How ignorant and intellectually challenged does one have to be to think that that quote has any effect on me whatsoever? I just find it pathetic, and like I said, double standards. Swap male for female and the producers would never have heard the end of it.
Some of you can make jokes all you want, but I'm sick of this forced SJW rubbish in my Star Trek, and I say that as a gay middle eastern man. We don't need 3 Discovery crew members to be gay. We don't need 80% of Enterprise bridge to be female. Just represent reality, give us a 50:50 mix. Don't make the pendulum swing so far the other way it becomes parody. Discovery is well past that point but that series is so dumb I don't really care, I'd hate to see the same happen to ST: Picard, but it's looking more and more likely...
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The simple reality is that the pendulum will swing and then find balance. Balance doesn't occur automatically, especially in culture and Hollywood is a reflection of culture.
You don't seem to mind when the cast is predominantly male. Based on your avatar, you're clearly a fan of the Abrams movies, of which only have one female character in their main cast, and each movie only having an additional one female supporting role. So 50-50 isn't such a priority when there's more males than there are females?
Besides, Disco and Picard are hardly as female dominant as you're making them seem. Disco's main cast consists of five males (one of whom is the ship's captain) and two females, one of whom is the show's lead. Picard actually is pretty close to being 50-50 given its main cast consists of four males (one of whom is the lead) and three females. Hell, look at how the cast is broken down, the males consist of a legendary retired admiral, a starship captain, an elite unstoppable fighter, and a Romulan intelligence officer with carte blanche to operate how he sees fit. Meanwhile the female cast consists of a scientist caught in the middle of an existential crisis, another scientist who is socially awkward and always trying too hard to fit in, and a burnt-out alcoholic drug addict. Certainly seems like the males have far more positive representation on this show than the females.
The pendulum really swings in the favor of the male cast when you factor in that one of the male actors actually plays six characters on the show who have appeared in multiple episodes, vs a female actress who only plays four roles, only one has appeared in more than two episodes, and another one of which only appeared as a drawing.
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But it isn't happening in Picard. Almost the entire cast of lead and supporting characters are male and I don't know of any that are openly gay. So...what's your point again?
Raffi, Agnes, Seven, Soji and Deanna Troi are women and just about every other character who has a lot of speaking lines has been male. And Deanna has appeared in just one episode so far and Seven in just three, only two of which had more than one scene or line of dialogue for her.
How'd I miss this earlier? I have to respond to this.
I'm half-Iranian (thus half-middle eastern) and I'm somewhere in the middle with orientation... and I don't care how many gay characters there are or what the composition of the gender is. Do I like the characters as characters? That's all I care about.
Trying to make sure everything is "properly balanced" is just as bad as not having representation at all. Then you're not worried about characters. You're worried about quotas. "Do they have enough men?" "Do they have enough women?" Some crews are going to tilt more one way. Some another. That's just the way it goes.
You have an avatar from the 2009 Star Trek Film. Do you care that the crew is six men, one woman? I don't think you do. Before you twist it the other way, I don't have a problem with a crew of six men, one woman either. But I also don't have a problem with a crew of six women, one man. Equality means you don't have a problem with "mostly men", "mostly women", or "half and half". You clearly have a problem with one of those three.
I want to know the gender balance of the all-Vulcan crew of the Intrepid in "The Immunity Syndrome(TOS)." It had better be mostly male because, you know, Vulcan was a patriarchal society, right?
My? You don't own it.
And what's so forced? Are they jamming gay loooooove into every episode? Are they making the still-in-the-minority female characters more competent than their male counterparts (which actually happens in a lot of sitcoms, but I don't see you calling SJW on that)?
Yeah, so perhaps the pendulum is overcorrecting. So what? What does that harm, except to certain fragile POVs of the historically overrepresented who can't stand not being front and center all the time.
Wah.
I just love the design of Kelvin, that's all. No need to read so much into it.
My issue is, all this representation stuff is just so forced, it's done so obviously that it sticks out and pulls me out of the episode. I didn't know whether to cringe or laugh when they made Reno gay. I've come to expect the next small role Romulan / Disco character to be black. I'm not racist (middle eastern), I'm not homophobic (gay), I've nothing against women (genuinely). I'm against this SJW agenda being crammed down our throats constantly. Like I said, especially on Discovery, but more and more on Picard. I've nothing against casting the net a bit wider than twenty years ago, but they go so far it's practically a parody of itself.
Hey Discovery... how about instead of developing characters like Airiam, her replacement (put money on it), Detmer, Nahn, Owo, Number One, Dr Kashkooli... you give Bryce and Rhys something to do? Struggling to think of any other side male characters. I know the two of them aren't women, but you'll be fine
Star Trek was "forcing" SJW "rubbish" at people before there was a term or acronym for it.
It's kind of it's thing.
“They made Reno gay.”
Nah, that was the actress. Coz she is.
Nah, that was the actress. Coz she is.
It's just further proof that I watch very different shows.
They made every character except for 3 straight!
Facts are irrelevant. It's all about how I feel. Or something.. 
The name-calling stops here.
It's not "your" Star Trek, either.
It's not yore Star Trek either. Cuz that was then; this is now.
But enough about Monkees songs. I'm a believer already.
Randy Scouse git.
