Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x03 - "The End is the Beginning"
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Fair enough about the Defiant. Pike can still resign over what he saw and Starfleet couldn't do anything to him about it.You seem to forget:
There is the Temporal Prime Directive - and it probably came into being BECAUSE of the whole 'Red Angel' situation. Hell, DS9 showed there was a 'Temporal Investigation' section of Star Fleet and it had definitely existed since the 23rd century as they new all about Kirk, and considered him a temporal menace.
There always was poverty in Trek, they just redefined poverty by saying "Is Raffi starving? She has a replicator right? She has a home even if its trailer sized? There, she's not poor."Remember when Picard was lecturing the rich guy from the twentieth century? It would seem that there are still people with enormous estates and others who live in quasi poverty. Maybe the rich guy was still rich after all and Picard was just pulling his leg.
The Enterprise crew owes Mark Twain, Lily, and all the people they boasted about eradicating poverty to an apology.
You seem to forget:
There is the Temporal Prime Directive - and it probably came into being BECAUSE of the whole 'Red Angel' situation. Hell, DS9 showed there was a 'Temporal Investigation' section of Star Fleet and it had definitely existed since the 23rd century as they new all about Kirk, and considered him a temporal menace.
Because they knew about Kirk doesn't mean they existed as a department that far back. I'm sure whenever the department came into be, they studied Starfleet records for incidents of time travel.
I know. After I sent the entry, I remembered him.Um...Space Legolas still hasn't shown up.
The nukes of World War III probably took care of a lot of people's wealth. Considering a lot of wealth is merely paper/digital.
Would using contemporary slang in a show set on 18th century make it fell more 'real' to you as well? Personally I want portrayal of future to be a bit more than rayguns and rubberhead aliens; you should at least try to hint that it is a different time via speech, customs and values. Making the future to be like today makes it less real to me, not more.
I guess we can toss out the rumors that the Romulan samurai is Laris and Zhaban's son? I know that was a rumor going around, but there's no indication so far that this is true.I know. After I sent the entry, I remembered him.
But Pike KNOWS his future - and believes it can't be changed/or doesn't want to change it as it may lead to something worse for the Galaxy; and no matter what he'll end up horribly injured after saving Star Fleet Cadets in a training accident. It's his 'fate' and he's accepted and made peace with it. he is who he is, and is remaining true to that. Plus in that accident, he's a Fleet Admiral. You don't get to be a Fleet Admiral by resigning from Star Fleet.
Why Pike has resigned to dying horribly has probably something to do with the fact that he gripped a time crystal, which its keeper said has that very effect on people's fate. The simplest way for the crystal to do that would be to affect Pike's mind, I'd think...
And the Defiant absolutely had to die to allow our heroes to save all the multiverse from Mirror Stamets' meddling. That is, Starfleet knew of one way to save Everything, and couldn't risk not using that way.
Edit: Fleet Admiral? He's got five stars. But that'd be consistent with the so far speculative rank of Fleet Captain, with four stars marking "mere" Captain. After all, Fleet Captain is what he was called in the original story of his demise.
Timo Saloniemi
And the Defiant absolutely had to die to allow our heroes to save all the multiverse from Mirror Stamets' meddling. That is, Starfleet knew of one way to save Everything, and couldn't risk not using that way.
Edit: Fleet Admiral? He's got five stars. But that'd be consistent with the so far speculative rank of Fleet Captain, with four stars marking "mere" Captain. After all, Fleet Captain is what he was called in the original story of his demise.
Timo Saloniemi
Thing is, it isn't real. And nothing dates sci-fi quicker than made up language.
"Yahren" anyone?
they don't need to exist then - they can come from 3214 to whack whatever captain they want to
Good episode! A bit slow at times, but it featured several fun scenes.
1. The EMH listing off Picard's credentials: "Chief contact with the Q continuum, arbiter of succession for the Klingon Empire, savior of Earth from Borg invasion, Captain of the Enterprises D and E. The man even worked alongside the great Spock!".
2. The TNG fanfare as Picard considers sitting in the captain's chair, then later when he says "Engage" and La Sirena warps off -- pure nostalgia!
Laris also alludes to the fact that the captured Romulan is a "northerner", like Zhaban. Perhaps bumpy foreheads are from the north?
1. The EMH listing off Picard's credentials: "Chief contact with the Q continuum, arbiter of succession for the Klingon Empire, savior of Earth from Borg invasion, Captain of the Enterprises D and E. The man even worked alongside the great Spock!".
2. The TNG fanfare as Picard considers sitting in the captain's chair, then later when he says "Engage" and La Sirena warps off -- pure nostalgia!
Laris also alludes to the fact that the captured Romulan is a "northerner", like Zhaban. Perhaps bumpy foreheads are from the north?
Whose to say that the Defiant's disappearance wasn't the thing that got the whole ball rolling to begin with? That the Mirror Universe wouldn't have been advanced enough for Spore Drive experiments without getting the 100 year head start the Defiant offered.
we more or less know how people talked in the 19th centurie - 24th not so much
... do we scrap cecille b demille's work entirely (not a bad idea for any reason)?
All of us whose seen the stage play "Those Crazy Klingons" know exactly how alien guys become bumpy headed freaks. "Northerner" I suspect is just a euphomism for a guy who spends many a long lonely night in "battle".
yes, he was - at the very end. He was watching Soji speak to a reclaimed Borg in its own language and commented on it to himself.
Yes, the same Spock who's so great that he's never mentioned at all in regards to the Romulan supernova, which itself is always discussed, or how it suddenly disappeared into a black hole Spock created.
Not by FNN journalists, Admiral Clancy, or even Picard himself.
Assuming they were referring to the northern hemisphere of Romulus, how would such radical speciation occur to demonstrate such physical characteristic changes on the same world, when they are relative newcomers? Cross-breeding with Remans, perhaps?
Further, how did Remans come to exist? Were they the original native inhabitants of these worlds and got conquered when the "Raptor Vulcans" arrived and subjugated them as second-class citizens of their new empire?
We do not scrap Demille's work. One only has to watch the recent remake of The Ten Commandments to understand why.
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