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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x02 - "Maps and Legends"

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This thread is "a good egg."
It's get back on topic eventually, by hook or by crook... ;)

I understand what's being said and can agree … partially. With respect to nautical or naval terminology … well … I give that a pass. The military does place a premium on tradition and history. As for things like "hang up" all I can say is every age has their hipster-dufuses.

Have you ever actually worked in for for the military? They're *always* renaming terms and just *love* to invent new acronyms for things they've been doing the same way for years.
 
I definitely see your point, but I'm looking at it from a writing standpoint. The exact phrase "don't hang up" feels very contemporary, and the decision to either write the line that way, or to leave it in the edit if Patrick Stewart ad-libbed it, is a curious one.
The phrase dates back to the earliest phones, so I’m not sure it counts as contemporary. But it is persistent;)
 
… They're *always* renaming terms and just *love* to invent new acronyms for things they've been doing the same way for years.

Not saying they don't. Just as I am sure you are not trying to claim that the military does not value history and tradition.

What I am saying is I really don't look to find fault with every nuance of a new Star Trek series. If there is a plausible reason to give them the benefit of the doubt, therefore a pass, then I do. That's all.
 
Not saying they don't. Just as I am sure you are not trying to claim that the military does not value history and tradition.

What I am saying is I really don't look to find fault with every nuance of a new Star Trek series. If there is a plausible reason to give them the benefit of the doubt, therefore a pass, then I do. That's all.
At the end of the day, it's a show for people to watch in the here and now. Woe betide any sci-fi writer that attempts to anticipate future slang and colloquialisms. It's either going to date very badly, or end up sounding like broken gibberish.
 
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Don't people 'hang up' their cellphones and Skype calls too? I for one have not seen a physically hang-uppable phone at least for a decade.
You don't work in an office setting then.;)

We use VoIP phones and they still have handsets you can "hang up".
 
At the end of the day, it's a show for people to watch in the here and now. Woe betide any sci-fi writer that attempts to anticipate future slang and colloquialisms. It's either going to date very badly, or end up sounding like broken gibberish.

Although, it can be kind of fun in a retro-futuristic way once we've move well past the era these were invented, like this from the early 1980s (The Tuning is also fun in a similar kind of way):

https://www.contemporary-art.org/Multimedia/Spaxter-Works-31785.html
 
Sometimes old phrases and colloquialisms can make a comeback. I've broken my right hip and had it surgically repaired. I refer to it as my "trick" hip.
 
You don't work in an office setting then.;)
I don't, but I also live in Finland. Offices predominately use cellphones here. Landlines are almost completely gone. Most operators do no longer provide service for them and it is projected that the last few remaining landline phones will go offline during this year. I should have realised that the rest of the world is lagging behind...
 
People used to communicate with smoke signals. How come we don't have anything left from that time?

Or has the phrase "Blowing smoke up my ass" anything to do with it?
 
As it happens, it all rather fits into the obsession most Earth natives seem to have with everything pre-WWIII. It's clearly a planet trying to recreate the past while still living in the future. Seriously, name one recurring holodeck program from TNG, DS9, or VOY that wasn't rooted in the 20th Century.
I think Bashir once even commented on the lack of original ideas in 24th century human culture, where everything is just a reinterpretation of older works.
Earth isn't just a well manicured utopic garden, it's a living museum world. It shouldn't surprise that this also extends to language and speech.
 
At the end of the day, it's a show for people to watch in the here and now. Woe betide any sci-fi writer that attempts to anticipate future slang and colloquialisms. It's either going to date very badly, or end up sounding like broken gibberish.
"She was nova, that one."
 
People used to communicate with smoke signals. How come we don't have anything left from that time?

Or has the phrase "Blowing smoke up my ass" anything to do with it?
We use the term the phrase "Send him a smoke signal" as a way to say get someone attention or send him a message. "Smoke signal" is also used to interpret someone actions or intend. "How did you miss the smoke signals? She's totally into you" or "The smoke signals indicate an economic down turn."
 
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