Star Trek Nemesis review from that funny old guy!
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Funny review and Nemesis was a pretty dull movie, but he's strawmanned Janeway's more crazy actions - she made a deal with the Borg because they were a lesser evil to Species 8472 (who were going to kill everyone, Borg or not), "Endgame" was present day Janeway getting entrapped by crazy future Janeway, and Janeway shooting civilian hostages was an inaccurate dramatic reconstruction.
The similarities between Nemesis and the Austin Powers movies, let alone The Wrath of Khan, was uncanny though. Insurrection was pretty awful and Nemesis was underwhelming, but he was a little excessive on the otherwise successful First Contact (he strawmanned Picard's fury against the Borg).
The similarities between Nemesis and the Austin Powers movies, let alone The Wrath of Khan, was uncanny though. Insurrection was pretty awful and Nemesis was underwhelming, but he was a little excessive on the otherwise successful First Contact (he strawmanned Picard's fury against the Borg).
Somehow I agree with everything he says about Nemesis (and its writer and director).
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I love all of his reviews!
To me he sounds a lot like the 70s bodybuilder Mike Mentzer, seen here (the guy on the left, talking like the guy in the Nemesis review)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyF--C0r8PI
To me he sounds a lot like the 70s bodybuilder Mike Mentzer, seen here (the guy on the left, talking like the guy in the Nemesis review)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyF--C0r8PI
Picard: Your heart, your hands, your eyes are the same as mine.
RLM: No they're not. Picard has an artificial heart.
That's all I really need to hear. After seven seasons of seeing how certain events changed Picard's life, this one moment where Picard gets stabbed through the heart is the one pinnacle moment in Picard's character that changed his life for the better. This could have been a great moment for Picard to explain to Shinzon how different the two of them really are.
There is no excuse for not including it.
RLM: No they're not. Picard has an artificial heart.
That's all I really need to hear. After seven seasons of seeing how certain events changed Picard's life, this one moment where Picard gets stabbed through the heart is the one pinnacle moment in Picard's character that changed his life for the better. This could have been a great moment for Picard to explain to Shinzon how different the two of them really are.
There is no excuse for not including it.
He's cherry picking stuff mainly for comical effect, he's blatantly lying in one instance, but the rest of it is fine.
what instance?
He cited a fictional dramatic reconstruction as direct evidence for Janeway's wrong doing and that would rightfully destroy a prosecution case.
He also lingers too long on Shinzon's scheme and almost unlimited funding (ie his impressive flagship), not really rationalizing it. Thinking about how Romulan society/politics works, Shinzon and his Reman followers could've been pawns for a Tal-Shiar faction who thought the Romulan government that was massacred were too "soft" and they wanted to enlarge the power of the Romulan Star Empire and destroy the UFP without getting directly incriminated.
The first few minutes of Part 1, in which he compares TWOK to Nemesis in far more detail than anything I've seen here on the board (esp. Kirk and Picard using deception to try an alternate tactic) is pretty much all I needed to damn Nemesis. The rest of the review(s) was just icing on the cake.
I just watched the review and he is right Nemesis really was just to dark of a movie. There are mass murders, excessive violence, impalements, rapes, torture, the killing of a main character, and just a very sad and depressing tone to the whole movie. I really liked his comparison to the uplifting happy end of All Good Things compared to this Depressing ending to the movie franchise. I wonder why they made it such a dark movie? I know for me personally I did not want to see it in the theaters again after the first time because it just was not only not that great but also left me feeling depressed and was definitely not a feel good action movie.
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No offense intended, but you accuse the guy of lying, and then you pull off a wayyy-too-convoluted-to-be-any-convenient explanation out of nowhere. There was no mention, no hint, no inference of the Tal Shiar or anything else about incrimination. That's not rationalizing, that's pulling an idea and trying to make that into a fan-invented (and thus unintended) "director's cut" version of the film.
The audience should never ever have to make such a leap in order to justify anyone's actions on screen, especially one so major as the villain's motivations. "Rationalizing" is putting all the clues the film sets forth to solve a character, not inventing off-screen plot points and non-existent histories.
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