He sounded fine in Yakuza: Like a Dragon which was only a few years ago. John de Lancie sounded strange in Lower Decks but fine in Picard. Seems to be more of a Lower Decks issue.
Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 3x08 - "Crisis Point Ⅱ: Paradoxus"
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He sounded fine in Yakuza: Like a Dragon which was only a few years ago. John de Lancie sounded strange in Lower Decks but fine in Picard. Seems to be more of a Lower Decks issue.
I loved this episode. But I take off 2 points every time they insult raisin growers.
Loved this one. Much better than "A Mathematically Perfect [non-]Redemption"
This had the feel of a movie. Loved George's cameo as Sulu. And little cinematic touches like a reel-change cue-blip, and a moment of white screen with dust and scratches.
The moment Boimler and Mariner expressed a dislike of cliffhangers, I knew one was going to get tacked on. Wasn't exactly thrilled that Section 31 was involved.
"The horsie is going to bite you" seemed a bit of a non-sequitur.
This had the feel of a movie. Loved George's cameo as Sulu. And little cinematic touches like a reel-change cue-blip, and a moment of white screen with dust and scratches.
The moment Boimler and Mariner expressed a dislike of cliffhangers, I knew one was going to get tacked on. Wasn't exactly thrilled that Section 31 was involved.
"The horsie is going to bite you" seemed a bit of a non-sequitur.
Roddenberry answered this himself. Star Trek exists in-universe as programming for the history buffs of the setting.
He didn’t anyway. It was just an idea he came up with and some people took at face value.
Why not? People can make up their own mind. I don't know why authority means anything since people constantly saying, "Paramount doesn't tell me what to think," possibly while folding their arms and harumphing.
He just put it in the front of the novelization so it's not just a thing he said, either.
Canon is an imaginary construct of fans anyway as the OFFICIAL position of Paramount is that this is all a TV show and we should stop taking so seriously, so I'm happy to take the creator of the show at face value above other sources anyway.
Speaking of things Gene said, he did later declare the TMP novelization non-canon, so...
He also declared Star Trek: TAS canon, non-canon, and then non-canon but for Spock's pet episode.
People can make up their own minds. But that wasn’t what we were talking about. We were talking about Roddenberry’s supposed authority.
It matters very little. People ignore authority like a child with an ODD diagnosis. Trek fans seen to have a weird relationship with authority, demanding canon status in one breath and rejecting authorial intent in the next.
It's simple, Roddenberry is the ultimate authority unless he contradicts Paramount, which is correct unless it involves saying that the Enterprise doesn't look like it did in the Sixties.
In which case, they can go jump off a cliff.
So let it be written. So let it be done.
He's not wrong. I've seen people in one breath say 'any that Gene says matters', and in the next breath ignore something else he's said.
Again, my point wasn’t about what fans think. My point was that Roddenberry had no authority to declare that TOS was just a fictionalized account of what really happened. Because all he really wanted was to distance TOS from TMP/TNG and invalidate it any way he personally could.
Yup. What Roddenberry thought, or not, is ultimately irrelevant, as fans will dismiss whatever they think.
I mean, Roddenberry has the authority of being the creator. If you think there's ANY person to declare canon or not, it should be him and maybe a handful of other writers.
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