Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x09 - "Crisis Point"

[fireproof78]

Why are we talking about a deleted scene from Picard in a Lower Decks forum?

Talking about firing people came up again.

 

[Sarcastic Vulcan Salute]

Mariner's racism (speciesism?) is borne of ignorance and insensitivity, but what I think Tendi found the most shocking (as did I, as the viewer) was Chief Lundy, who revealed his own prejudice by calling her a "dirty Orion", eliciting a shocked reaction from her.

Obviously, it wasn't the real Lundy, but rather a hologram, but since the holographic personalities are all based on real private logs, one wonders if Lundy, and the rest of the crew, don't have latent prejudices of their own. Although I wouldn't expect this to be further explored in a comedy, it's interesting that Lower Decks has touched upon a theme that is also explored in other Star Trek series.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlanetOfHats

The concept that all people of this race are like X is kinda racist when it gets down to it, and that sort of generalization crosses all series. Every so often they play against type, like Enterprise's emotional, meat-eating Vulcans or the radical-honesty practicing Romulans in Picard.

But it seems rare for the series to try to make that point with a main character. So I hope that they do explore what being Orion means for Tendi.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Perfection. My first 10.

 

[UssGlenn]

The concept that all people of this race are like X is kinda racist when it gets down to it, and that sort of generalization crosses all series.

It's complicated because while aliens are stand ins for different groups of people, in universe they are entirely different species, and no one would ever say it's racist to say cats are loners and dogs are pack animals.

 

[frankieteardrop]

The cracking and popping in the animation as if it were actually recorded on film.

I didn't notice the first time around but caught it on a rewatch last night. It's a really nice touch.

 

[Trekker4747]

I didn't notice the first time around but caught it on a rewatch last night. It's a really nice touch.

There was also the "cigarette burn" mark in the corner denoting a reel change.

 

[valkyrie013]

For the Lundy thing.. Maybe he had an bas experience with Orions in his career that led to him not liking them.
I'm sure if you made one with Kirk's personal logs and she was a Klingon you get the same result.
Guess that is a type of racism but not the one where he thinks he's better than her just because he's human but because of something happening.

But Becky did do some mild speciesism with some stereotyping that she's a pirate do something

 

[Search4]

Yes, it's ridiculous. What's next, over-analyzing a science fiction show?

Nahh no one would waste time on something like that- wait —

 

[Tuskin38]

This episode has the most 10/10s of any episode so far this season I think.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Yes, it's ridiculous. What's next, over-analyzing a science fiction show?

This is Trek fandom, we over analyzed the analysis of a science fiction show.

 

[Borgminister]

This episode has the most 10/10s of any episode so far this season I think.

Bodes well for season 2!

 

[Charles Phipps]

This is Trek fandom, we over analyzed the analysis of a science fiction show.

Listen, the idea of analyzing a cartoon for kids is SILLY.

You'd have to be some sort of NERD for that.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Listen, the idea of analyzing a cartoon for kids is SILLY.

You'd have to be some sort of NERD for that.

Or a geek. Wait, which one is "knows and uses science" and which one is "knows obscure genre triva"?

 

[Charles Phipps]

Or a geek. Wait, which one is "knows and uses science" and which one is "knows obscure genre triva"?

Yes.
- Mathematician's Answer

 

[JD]

I know right? And there was also that shooting game Picard played with Jono in "Suddenly Human" Which was basically a digital version of clay pigeon shooting.
Really....shooting things for fun?? In the highly cultured 24th century? I'm shocked!

Edit: Discard that, I misremembered, I think they played squash or something and it just sounded like shooting?

There was an episode where we saw Picard and Guinan shooting targets on the holodeck.

Listen, the idea of analyzing a cartoon for kids is SILLY.

You'd have to be some sort of NERD for that.

Lower Decks is not for kids.

 

[Sarcastic Vulcan Salute]

There was an episode where we saw Picard and Guinan shooting targets on the holodeck.

It was Worf and Guinan. "New Ground," I think. Picard did his Dixon Hill thing and rode horseback on the holodeck, but I don't think we saw him target shooting, and it doesn't seem a Picardesque thing to do.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Lower Decks is not for kids.

My kid loves it.

 

[Trekker4747]

It was Worf and Guinan. "New Ground," I think. Picard did his Dixon Hill thing and rode horseback on the holodeck, but I don't think we saw him target shooting, and it doesn't seem a Picardesque thing to do.

We see him on the range with Riker in "A Matter of Honor" when he's trying to convince Riker to go on the officer exchange program.

 

[JD]

^Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of. I was pretty sure it was a first or second season episode, but I was being lazy and didn't feel like trying to figure out which one.

My kid loves it.

How old is your kid?

 

[Trekker4747]

^Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of. I was pretty sure it was a first or second season episode, but I was being lazy and didn't feel like trying to figure out which one.

How old is your kid?

We did see Picard and Guinan fencing against one another in "I, Borg."