Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x09 - "Crisis Point"

[rhllot]

Are the lizard people and dog people the one from that one episode where Riker said humans no longer eat meat?

Because I agreed with them that humans were barbaric for that.

I'm sure there is still meat on the menu in the sisko restaurant!

 

[rhllot]

Toppling statues is a common symbol of liberation from oppression. That's all they meant to convey. Doesn't reference anyone in particular.

the fall of the saddam statue was one of the most viewed images of this generation!

 

[NCC-73515]

The episode was written over a year ago, animation probably would have been started a year ago.

So it wouldn't be a direct reference to the current events in the US, but in the world in general.

And script changes were banned for a year, and that scene was drawn a year ago?

 

[Trekker4747]

Geordi La Forge isn't the only blind person wearing a VISOR.

There was that random extra wearing one during Freeman's speech.

Yes, we've been seeing these people since the first episode.

There were a lot of LOL moments for me, but I really liked the serious undercurrents of the episode a lot, actually. A lot of fans (at least to judge by message board traffic) had issues with Mariner being a rule-breaking slacker who remained in Starfleet despite charing at protocols and bureaucracy.

Here, it brings those things to the forefront.

Mariner intervenes because one group of aliens is literally eating the others. Instead of rewarding her for acting on this common-sense, clear moral imperative that sentient beings shouldn't be consumed as food, Freeman gets in her face.

And what's scary is that in serious Trek, the notion that "we don't interfere in the internal affairs of a planet" B.S. would mean, taken at face value, mean that Starfleet would stand by as one species literally ate another. Who are we to judge cannibalism? Of course, Our Various Heroes have found ways to sidestep that sort of things when needed, but still...

I literally fist-pumped when Freeman ordered Mariner to therapy (and chuckled when Mariner talked about it being the 80s, because the notion that a shrink should be a primary character as in TNG was so 80s). I just hope that Mariner isn't deemed cured of her issues just based on the one thing.

Here's the thing, how/where/when did Mariner get in this planet and liberate these people BY HER FUCKING SELF?! This is the "Mariner Problem" where she's give too much power and capability for some one young, low ranking, and under a command structure. She hasn't the resources to poss off and liberate a whole damn planet all on her own.

 

[Tim Thomason]

the fall of the saddam statue was one of the most viewed images of this generation!

I think it might've been one of the most viewed images of the last generation. [/we are so old]

 

[Tuskin38]

And script changes were banned for a year, and that scene was drawn a year ago?

If they want to match the lip flaps yes.

 

[Tim Thomason]

And script changes were banned for a year, and that scene was drawn a year ago?

I'm pretty sure the show was in the can before the recent Armageddon occurred.

 

[Romulan_spy]

Tendi looked mighty fine in her sexy pirate outfit!!

 

[Tim Thomason]

I guess at the end of the war against the dominion where the orion syndicate worked for the dominion some things will have changed in orion.

The date for the end of (semi-organized?) piracy seems apt. If, immediately after the war, the Federation Alliance and its huge war arsenal decided to end the threat imposed by the Orion Syndicate on lawless regions, the Syndicate might not stand a chance.

 

[UssGlenn]

She hasn't the resources to poss off and liberate a whole damn planet all on her own.

The implication is there was a "Lawrence of Arabia" inspired episode we didn't get to see.

 

[NCC-73515]

Geordi La Forge isn't the only blind person wearing a VISOR.

There was that random extra wearing one during Freeman's speech.

There were two of them in the first episode, IIRC

 

[eschaton]

I saw Keith DeCandido's review of the episode. Like us, he loved it. He points out the Mariner fighting her holo-copy scene was probably a callback to Kirk's fight with the shapeshifter in TUC.

 

[Sarcastic Vulcan Salute]

You'd think Ransom would be the one officer who'd have to know about Mariner, as in TNG-era Trek the first officer is responsible for crew evaluations.

I'd say Dr. T'Ana is even more likely since she has to know the medical histories of the officers and the next of kin to inform in case of emergency/death.

 

[F. King Daniel]

THIS is the fucked up shit you'd use a holodeck for! Murder all your co-workers, try to kill your mother and end up being defeated by yourself? YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

(Read about it on twitter or something, show it in England idk)

 

[rhllot]

The date for the end of (semi-organized?) piracy seems apt. If, immediately after the war, the Federation Alliance and its huge war arsenal decided to end the threat imposed by the Orion Syndicate on lawless regions, the Syndicate might not stand a chance.

surely now the orion syndicate run "legitimate companies"

 

[137th Gebirg]

Are the lizard people and dog people the one from that one episode where Riker said humans no longer eat meat?

When did RIker say this? I honestly don't recall.

I remember Spock said this about Vulcans in TOS' "All Our Yesterdays", but only because he was shocked to notice he suddenly developed a taste for it when he went into the past through the Atavachron, but I dno't remember Riker mentioning about this of humans. It makes even less sense in light of the more recent episode of PIC where he put "bunnycorn sausage" on pizza. Clearly, humans (and betazoids) still eat meat.

 

[cooleddie74]

surely now the orion syndicate run "legitimate companies"

Could be that the Dominion War so utterly devastated their trade networks that they had to pull a Michael Corleone and convert to "legitimate business dealings." The war pretty much left every major or secondary power in the Alpha Quadrant damaged to one degree or another.

 

[The Old Mixer]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonely_Among_Us

 

[Sarcastic Vulcan Salute]

When did RIker say this? I honestly don't recall.

I remember Spock said this about Vulcans in TOS' "All Our Yesterdays", but only because he was shocked to notice he suddenly developed a taste for it when he went into the past through the Atavachron, but I dno't remember Riker mentioning about this of humans. It makes even less sense in light of the more recent episode of PIC where he put "bunnycorn sausage" on pizza. Clearly, humans (and betazoids) still eat meat.

More precisely, he said that humans no longer enslave animals for food. There are lots of examples of humans eating replicated meat. The one that comes to mind is the episode where Kurn comes onboard as an exchange officer, and they throw him a welcome meal with turkey that he slathers caviar onto, then talks about how the replicated bird was too bland for him as a Klingon.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Ah - enslaved animals - got it. I forgot about that distinction. And I guess the bunnycorn was technically not enslaved for eating, but hunted in the wild. Thank you for the clarification.