Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x09 - "Crisis Point"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Lower Decks' started by Commander Richard, Sep 30, 2020.

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  1. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Toppling a statue is clearly a reference to today
    Anticans gave up on Selay and found new lizard people? XD
    Film lines, spots, and widescreen format in the holomovie
    Dodging "nice font!" credits XD
    Random Xon reference XD
    Message notification sound is the doorbell :shrug:
    Posing as Starfleet like Dana in VOY LFAP
    Shax mentions Pah-wraiths
    Severed Borg heads still have shields and can talk in the movie XD
    The ship crashes like in GEN, VOY Timeless, and BEY
    "Warning, the ship has crashed!" XD
    Fight on a rickety metal catwalk like in GEN
    TUC end credits!
    EXOCOMP next week!!! :luvlove::luvlove::luvlove::luvlove::luvlove::luvlove::luvlove:
     
  2. Isaac Lawrence

    Isaac Lawrence "NASA’s Kepler Space Telescope" Red Shirt

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    I saw it mentioned earlier, but yeah, I'm surprised no one knew that Mariner was her daughter...

    Anyway, 10, fresh.

    With all that's going on in the world I just felt good about everything after watching this. It was therapeutic. :lol:

    Star Trek is awesome.
     
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  3. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    You'd think Ransom would be the one officer who'd have to know about Mariner, as in TNG-era Trek the first officer is responsible for crew evaluations.
     
  4. frankieteardrop

    frankieteardrop Commander Red Shirt

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    This episode is an absolute blast. My favorite of the season.
     
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  5. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Weird, I assumed the toppled statue was a reference to taking down Saddam Hussein's statues or Lenin's.

    Those are, after all, dictators that had it happen.

    But could be reference to the Confederate ones.
     
  6. Romulan_spy

    Romulan_spy Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Yeah, I absolute love that we are going to see an exocomp from TNG again.
     
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  7. Romulan_spy

    Romulan_spy Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Probably both. A lot of statues have been torn down throughout history.
     
  8. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I hope we visit the Mirror Universe and Vindicta is actually Mariner's doppelganger.
     
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  9. UssGlenn

    UssGlenn Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I think Mariner's Father may have pulled some strings to hide her parentage, he's the only one with the authority.
     
  10. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    That was my immediate read on that reference. Or Palpatine's.

    I mean, statues coming down is not a new phenomenon.
     
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  11. rhllot

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    when you get to hell, tell the pah-wraiths that shaxs sent you!

    the best quote of all!
     
  12. rhllot

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    I guess at the end of the war against the dominion where the orion syndicate worked for the dominion some things will have changed in orion.
     
  13. KamenRiderBlade

    KamenRiderBlade Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Geordi La Forge isn't the only blind person wearing a VISOR.

    There was that random extra wearing one during Freeman's speech.
     
  14. KamenRiderBlade

    KamenRiderBlade Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I really like the Gatling Phaser Pistol that Vindicta had, it's pretty sweet.

    Shax's Heavy Phaser Blaster felt like a tribute to Gundam =D.
     
  15. rhllot

    rhllot Captain Captain

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    I remember that orion syndicate worked for the dominion, I imagine that after the war some things started to change
     
  16. WarpFactorZ

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    Well, by this point (2380s), Geordi isn't wearing a VISOR either.
     
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  17. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    The episode was written over a year ago, animation probably would have been started a year ago.

    So it wouldn't be a direct reference to the current events in the US, but in the world in general.
     
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  18. rhllot

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    i think saddan
     
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  19. WarpFactorZ

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    Toppling statues is a common symbol of liberation from oppression. That's all they meant to convey. Doesn't reference anyone in particular.
     
  20. Sarcastic Vulcan Salute

    Sarcastic Vulcan Salute Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    There were a lot of LOL moments for me, but I really liked the serious undercurrents of the episode a lot, actually. A lot of fans (at least to judge by message board traffic) had issues with Mariner being a rule-breaking slacker who remained in Starfleet despite charing at protocols and bureaucracy.

    Here, it brings those things to the forefront.

    Mariner intervenes because one group of aliens is literally eating the others. Instead of rewarding her for acting on this common-sense, clear moral imperative that sentient beings shouldn't be consumed as food, Freeman gets in her face.

    And what's scary is that in serious Trek, the notion that "we don't interfere in the internal affairs of a planet" B.S. would mean, taken at face value, mean that Starfleet would stand by as one species literally ate another. Who are we to judge cannibalism? Of course, Our Various Heroes have found ways to sidestep that sort of things when needed, but still...

    I literally fist-pumped when Freeman ordered Mariner to therapy (and chuckled when Mariner talked about it being the 80s, because the notion that a shrink should be a primary character as in TNG was so 80s). I just hope that Mariner isn't deemed cured of her issues just based on the one thing.
     
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