Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x09 - "Crisis Point"
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The parent thing still stands. If your father is a major diplomat on the world scene and your best friend doesn't even remotely know it you are one secretive person.
Or there was some concerns on a security level, that someone could use Spock to sway Sarek. So it was deemed a “need to know” basis. Much like Mariner could be used against Freeman and her father.
The Sybok thing, though, always made sense because he was a religious fanatic exiled from Vulcan for radical and "dangerous" beliefs. If your brother were a cult leader that your community had ostracized and chosen not to talk about you'd be pretty quiet, too, to avoid drawing attention to yourself and your family.
I wonder if the holodeck knows DaVunci was really an imortal human/alien that was a handful of other notable figures in human history?
I'd say this was the best episode so far, the humor still doesn't land with me and I think it's over the top with the meta-references and such, but... I enjoyed this one. I still though don't much like Mariner and this episode shows she has real issues that I don't think will be resolved at the end they seemed too shrugged away.
But, man, getting that much pleasure over simulating killing your crewmates and MOTHER?! Damn.
The show still to much wants to poke at Brad.
But, I dunno, it was a decent episode. Show needs less Mariner and more Tendi.
All the previous episodes I meh at a "5" here..... An 8.
I'd say this was the best episode so far, the humor still doesn't land with me and I think it's over the top with the meta-references and such, but... I enjoyed this one. I still though don't much like Mariner and this episode shows she has real issues that I don't think will be resolved at the end they seemed too shrugged away.
But, man, getting that much pleasure over simulating killing your crewmates and MOTHER?! Damn.
The show still to much wants to poke at Brad.
But, I dunno, it was a decent episode. Show needs less Mariner and more Tendi.
All the previous episodes I meh at a "5" here..... An 8.
It's great that this episode will lead directly into the next one, with the consequence of the Mariner/Freeman family relationship about to be revealed.
Loved the beauty shot and the crash and even the darker Bridge. It wasn't just poking fun at the Kelvin movies, but earlier movies from TMP (long shot) to TWOK (Vindicta as a Khan analogue) to TSFS (Vindicta awakening on the planet from a torpedo tube, Vindicta killing poor Shempo) to TUC (randomly quoting Shakespeare, signature end credits) to Generations (crashed ship, Mariner's gravesite). Not sure if I saw any direct TVH or TFF references.
Loved the beauty shot and the crash and even the darker Bridge. It wasn't just poking fun at the Kelvin movies, but earlier movies from TMP (long shot) to TWOK (Vindicta as a Khan analogue) to TSFS (Vindicta awakening on the planet from a torpedo tube, Vindicta killing poor Shempo) to TUC (randomly quoting Shakespeare, signature end credits) to Generations (crashed ship, Mariner's gravesite). Not sure if I saw any direct TVH or TFF references.
The opening scene might be the most trenchant bit of political commentary Trek has ever done. The shot of Mariner pulling down the statue immediately links the scene to current events in the US, then Free-man! shows up and declares that things had been peaceful back when the rat people were eating the lizard people, but now that the lizard people are fighting back, that's terrible. It's far more pointed than Trek's usual milquetoast takes on political controversies, and yet done so lowkey that the usual complainers might not even notice.
It does seem like a good spot to end the season, with the revelation to Boimler a natural cliffhanger. One could only hope that this means the true finale is going to be a big extravaganza.
Ransom, in previous episodes, doesn't seem to know.
I love how Freeman gets on Mariner at the beginning for breaking the Prime Directive, then turns around and breaks It by offering the lizard and rat people replicator technology.
Already broken. At this point, the replicators might help prevent further slaughter.
There's also a very simple element of Sybok's past that a huge number of Trek fans ignore.
"Why does Spock not mention his brother in his childhood?"
"I dunno, maybe Sybok was raised by his mother?"
That may be giving it too much credit but I like your interpretation. Certainly, Mariner is correct that a civil war is not her fault if the locals are being used as food.
The crew being called away while on leave is TFF-like.
Shempo. Welshie for a new generation. The next generation.
Agreed since this was most likely written 18 months ago before things REALLY dialed up to 1000........pulling down statues of the defeated isn't something new at all.
Why would anyone have access to it outside of senior staff and the personnel department? It's not like I can go nosing around my coworkers personnel files at my job.
Mariner fighting herself was supposed to be a lowkey Nemesis reference I think.
Darn, I was hoping it was more of a "stop hitting yourself" joke reference.
Could also be another TUC reference (Kirk v. Martia). Really, Nemesis was the first "Crisis Point", taking all previous Star Trek films and mixing it together to come up with... something.
I mean, we could go all the way back to "The Enemy Within" for that if we want to dig deep.
True. I was just trying to look at all the tropes that Crisis Point took from the previous Star Trek movies.
The simple answer is D: All of the Above.
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