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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x04 - "Moist Vessel"

Rate the episode...

  • 10 - Excellent job as usual, Commander!

    Votes: 15 12.4%
  • 9

    Votes: 21 17.4%
  • 8

    Votes: 40 33.1%
  • 7

    Votes: 24 19.8%
  • 6

    Votes: 9 7.4%
  • 5

    Votes: 4 3.3%
  • 4

    Votes: 3 2.5%
  • 3

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • 2

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • 1 - Pull your weight, Ensign!

    Votes: 1 0.8%

  • Total voters
    121
I think the show should definitely include a queer character at some point. No reason not to. The four main are straight and so is Ransom and Freeman.

Mariner has called both male and female characters "hot" and dated an Anabaj (a species that lays eggs in your body so by mainstream definition more female than male) just to piss her mom off.
 
I think the moment for "ironic" racist jokes has passed. Read the world.
nah, I was just wondering what differentiates him from other characters in the show that would explain your disliking of him. I probably go with 'cyborg' instead if you can sleep better
 
Giving a character no personality is a terrible "joke", then. So far, he's completely useless and it certainly isn't in a "funny" way or in any way that can be considered deliberate.

The joke about "I like doing boring jobs" is already being handled by Boimler, and "enthusiasm" is being done by Tendi much better. So giving him the same traits already used by other characters is an incredible waste of a character.

So far, the character has no reason to exist. Almost no personality, point of view or comic engine beyond "nice guy." Awful.

Weird, because Sam is easily one of my favorite characters and has one of the strongest personalities so far. He and Tendi are the the right balance of competent and likable versus the main duo. Sam is LIKABLE, loves being an engineer, is a wokraholic, and would be the best boyfriend in the galaxy if not for the fact that his duty comes first. Plus, he is nervous as hell.

LOUD does not mean a better character.
 
I'm watching the episode right now. It was falling into "kind of okay" territory for me... until Mariner was promoted to Lieutenant! dun-dun-dun!!!! Then it picked right up. "What type of job would she really hate that would make her transfer off the ship?"

This episode is making the best use of the fact that it's an animated comedy and not a regular Star Trek show.
 
This episode was, for me, the weakest so far. I can't even rate it because my thoughts kept straying. I can, however, say that Marinr was now officially getting on my nerves. I get issues, badass, bratty, etc. - but here she was childish, even for an animation series. Hope this was an outlier for me.
 
So, reading this thread has led me to the safe conclusion that I owe my friends, who watched Constantine with me back in college and I started out on a theological discussion after the film, an apology.
 
So, reading this thread has led me to the safe conclusion that I owe my friends, who watched Constantine with me back in college and I started out on a theological discussion after the film, an apology.
how does the word 'moist' fit in a theological discussion?
 
Mariner is funniest when she's hyper competent and not when she's a toddler.

Like last week's episode. I wasn't annoyed by her last week, and thought she and Ranson had good repartee. This week though she was back to her Episode 1 antics.

I'm going back and forth on what I want to grade this one. I liked it better than last week, but the whole Mariner thing is starting to weigh on me a little. The first episode I gave a 10 and then reduced it to 7. Last episode was a 6. I think this episode was a 7 or an 8, but I think I'm going with 8 because I really liked the color around the ship being terraformed and this felt like a sci fi/Star Trek plot.
 
The show has the potential to be both a great comedy and great Star Trek, but right now it's neither.
I was about to post basically the same thing. As if they couldn't decide whether to be comedy/ spoof (which, to me, is Trek, too) or more serious. Being kinda both worked forme for the first 3 eps, but may not for a whole season. Idk, Futurama worked very well on the comedy/ satire level for me, but I also felt with the characters. Here, both is... usually ok, but this time, not really.
If Beckett was clever, she should have pretended she was enjoying all those silly Officer assignments. That would have annoyed her mother more.
Would have been funnir, too.
 
Holy &*#^!!! I just had the first all out-and-out laugh this entire series, when Boimler spills hot coffee, fresh out of the replicator, on Asshole First Officer's balls! The rest of the series so far I've thought "This is amusing", or I'd get a grin. This was an all-out 10-second straight laugh.
 
Weird, because Sam is easily one of my favorite characters and has one of the strongest personalities so far. He and Tendi are the the right balance of competent and likable versus the main duo. Sam is LIKABLE, loves being an engineer, is a wokraholic, and would be the best boyfriend in the galaxy if not for the fact that his duty comes first. Plus, he is nervous as hell.

LOUD does not mean a better character.

No one ever said "loud", so I don't know where that's coming from.

I agree that those character traits were sort of there in that first episode. Being nervous, being obsessed with work are interesting and potentially funny qualities. However, since that first episode, he's demonstrated almost none of them except "nice guy/likable", which is a recipe for boredom.

But I appreciate you clearly delineating your opinion in this matter and I respect what you said.
 
nah, I was just wondering what differentiates him from other characters in the show that would explain your disliking of him. I probably go with 'cyborg' instead if you can sleep better

I sleep just fine because I don't make racist jokes.
 
During the first half, I was going to give it a 6. Then Mariner getting promoted bumped it up in the second-half and I had the first all-out barrel laugh in this series so far. So I'm going with a 7.

Tendi's too obsessed with wanting to be liked. One day she'll realize there are certain people she won't want to like her. A big break-out moment for her would be if she ever tells someone "The Hell with you!"
 
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