You just want everyone running laps like Dave Bowman.
Spoilers Star Trek II: Anyone else think it's odd that ...
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Well, unless there is a lockout for wrong tries. You can block processes like that and require the correct code or you can't try again. Pretty easy level of protection. Plus it is something that you have to know about and have the right address to connect and probably encryption, so it isn't easy just because the code is 5 digits.
Now we all know the code!
HahA! Once you get passed her shields, she still has a pretty mean right cross.
This is a good question. And you're right it does seem too simple. Here's my totally manufactured answer I came up with in about the time to read this far.
Only a currently active duty Federation Star Ship can use the code, so it's not as simple as 5 digit number from anywhere. What this means is if Star Fleet sells old ships or just decommissioned some from active duty, they wouldn't be able to do this. It has to be an authorized Star Fleet Star Ship to use this so no enemy could even try this even though it's a simple code. Because it can only be an active duty ship then it's somewhat simple on purpose because the situation would mean the ship it's being used on is stolen or captured. Non Star Fleet personnel wouldn't know about it to use a captured ship to use it, being a command encrypted library using that retinal scan that Spock did when he was bending down low over his console just off camera.
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Agree. The same problem with Picard leaving Kirk's body under a pile of rocks in Generations.
There was something in the novelization about Spock not wanting his body returned to Vulcan for some reason. It's possible it was in an earlier revision of the script, but got taken out by the shooting script.
Given Meyer's nautical leanings, I'm guessing it was supposed to be the equivalent of being buried at sea. They might also have expected that the torpedo would be incinerated on entering the Genesis planet's atmosphere, considering what David says in the next film about how the torpedo soft-landed due to the gravity fields being all screwed up.
In the novelization, as I recall, the torpedo is seen to burn up upon entering the atmosphere. (Not sure how McIntyre resolved this in the follow-up novel; I've never looked at it.)
This was on a ship where the self-destruct code was 0-0-0-destruct-0.
Password security doesn't seem to be a huge priority
Password security doesn't seem to be a huge priority
pThis was on a ship where the self-destruct code was 0-0-0-destruct-0.
Password security doesn't seem to be a huge priority
Kinda like the modern military to be honest seeing as they found a bunch of computers in nuclear missle bases that still had default passwords.....
This was on a ship where the self-destruct code was 0-0-0-destruct-0.
Password security doesn't seem to be a huge priority
So true!
Yes, it's really that simple. It's a "burial at sea" in space. That's just what space navies do.
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IIRC, in the Trek III novelization, Kirk and Sarek figured that Spock requested burial in space in his will because he wasn't certain he'd be able to deposit his katra in someone else, being only half-Vulcan, and he figured if he was successful he (well, McCoy or Kirk or whoever) would be able to intervene and save the body. Just his luck that McCoy was "allergic" to the process so things weren't so clear-cut.
The idea that putting one's katra to another head would allow one to basically just keep on living doesn't really appeal to me. The "keep on living" thing is never mentioned anywhere, after all, and we never heard of Vulcans living forever.
That McCoy became a spokesman for Spock's katra is IMHO the exceptional bit here: if deposited in the head of a fellow Vulcan, the katra would never "keep on living" or otherwise make noises. It would become but a fond memory, perhaps getting shared among the family, perhaps put in a jar on a shelf for that very purpose. But put it in McCoy, or Archer, or other weakling alien, and all hell breaks loose.
Timo Saloniemi
That McCoy became a spokesman for Spock's katra is IMHO the exceptional bit here: if deposited in the head of a fellow Vulcan, the katra would never "keep on living" or otherwise make noises. It would become but a fond memory, perhaps getting shared among the family, perhaps put in a jar on a shelf for that very purpose. But put it in McCoy, or Archer, or other weakling alien, and all hell breaks loose.
Timo Saloniemi
The idea of the katra was an expansion on the idea that the Vulcans were descendants of settlers from Sargon's world, and the method of preservation used for Sargon, Thalassa and Henoch was essentially the same as the Fal-Tor-whichever used to save the Vulcan minds, called Katras, into perpetuity. Those minds were first put into another head, and then ceremonially put into devices similar the spheres Sargon and company were in. The priests of Mount Seleya, whatever you call them, could then commune with the preserved minds, and use their ancient wisdom to affect Vulcan policy on just about anything.
The wrench in those works is the ENT storyline regarding Vulcans not using telepathy. How else are they supposed to effect the transfer?
The wrench in those works is the ENT storyline regarding Vulcans not using telepathy. How else are they supposed to effect the transfer?
