Star Trek Federation: The First 150 Years
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What they say? If it's Riverside, Iowa, that is supposedly where Kirk Prime was born and even XI indicated he was raised there. Indeed, Riverside promotes themselves as the "future birthblace of Captain Kirk."
For what it's worth:
In STO: The Needs of the Many it is established that the Saurian Aennik Okeg is elected president of the UFP in 2392, re-elected for a second term in 2398 and for a third term in 2405. He's still president as of 2409.
We love democracy; we love the Federation. Once this crisis has abated, we will lay down the powers you have given us!
(Sorry about that)
On a serious note, I wonder if Aennik Okeg will show up in the novel 'verse continuity? STO had a lot of homages to the novels, including Bacco as President, so I'd be interested to see if the novels reciprocate.
IIRC from an interview I read with the author, the book says we was born in space, rather than fudging that the Kelvin was en route home and that Winona's labour was premature (caused by Nero's attack.)
That stuff is implied in the script and said outright in Alan Dean Foster's novelization, but I guess the author just went with the simplest answer. Kirk is still from Iowa, even if he spent the first two or three days of life in space.
I guess the sign in Riverside is a continuity error
I guess the sign in Riverside is a continuity error
Not really. The book isn't canon and therefore as far as canon is concerned there is no reason Kirk Prime can't be born in Riverside.
^Well, there's no canonical mention of Riverside either (just of Iowa), so it's apocrypha vs. apocrypha. Canon doesn't come into it at all, unless some future screen production mentions Kirk Prime's birthplace specifically, which doesn't seem likely.
How did the Riverside thing start anyway? Trek IV reveals Kirk is from Iowa, but why did Riverside end up with the sign? Obviously, it's considered legtimate enough since XI shows he was raised in Riverside.
The story I'd always heard is that the residents of Riverside just decided that it was true.
I now have an urge to raise a plaque outside my home saying something along the lines of the following:
"FEDERATION HERITAGE SITE. In the year 2255, the first Nasat Ambassador to Earth will reside in the building to be built upon this very spot. Written records from the current denizen will inspire Her Excellency Ambassador C6 "Seasick" Yellow to found the Nasat-Human Siblinghood Association".
Come on, guys, give me some support here.
^That's right. From Memory Alpha:
From Starlog issue 112, November 1986, p. 14:
So it's just something the folks of Riverside adopted and promoted, and the Trek community responded positively to it and it sort of became unofficial Trek lore. It was referenced in various tie-ins, and by now has become so accepted that the Iowa scenes in the 2009 movie were set in Riverside.
Ah, okay. So I need Roddenberry's approval before my plaque is raised.
Fun fact: My sister was born the very night Roddenberry died. This means that either,
a) Roddenberry knew my sister was imminent and got out while he could, or
b) My sister is the reincarnation of Roddenberry.
If I go with b), will you accept her agreement as equal to Roddenberry's regarding my plaque?
I never realized the "born in Riverside" thing wasn't canonical. I humbly withdraw my earlier nitpick. :P
I really enjoyed reading this book. It has pride of place on my coffee table, stand and all. Some of the references in the bibliography were quite amusing. It reminded me of the Whorfin-class ships in Generations and the official list of shops and offices on DS9's Promenade. Good times.
I really enjoyed reading this book. It has pride of place on my coffee table, stand and all. Some of the references in the bibliography were quite amusing. It reminded me of the Whorfin-class ships in Generations and the official list of shops and offices on DS9's Promenade. Good times.
David talked about why he did this when we interviewed him on Literary Treks.
I just saw that Amazon UK has another version of this listed, with a release date of October 2013 and a price of just £16.99!
It's also supposed to be a general release (meaning you'll be able to buy it in book stores).
I read the book in one day.
Yeah. They did the same thing with the similar Star Wars books, The Jedi Path and Book of Sith. They both came out with the big expensive version with case and extras, and then a few months later they released just the book at a price closer to the average hardcover. They also released E-book versions when the book only versions came out, so I'm really hoping this will be the case with Federation too.
I hope the "book-only" version is eventually released in Kindle format. Unfortunately Amazon doesn't list such an animal.
The full edition is in bookstores, at least internationally. I bought mine in Sydney, Australia (thereby cancelling my original, several-times-delayed Amazon order) before Christmas, and I saw boxes stacked up in Forbidden Planet, London, just two weeks ago.
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