Star Trek: Discovery - The Enterprise War
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"Haven," in two scenes (ready room and holodeck).
IIRC, it was Fuller who requested Desperate Hours feature the Enterprise and Spock because he had no plans for them on the show. Those plans obviously changed after he left.
Violations (VGR #4) as well, according to Memory Beta.
Conveniently, Ghost Ship includes a scene where Troi explains why she calls Riker "Bill" instead of "Will." (It sounds like a Betazoid word for "shaving cream," which reminds her of her father.) That worked for me to reconcile the issue and even potentially explain why it was short-lived on the series--perhaps explaining it aloud made Troi distance herself from that association.
Yeah, I assume canonically that Troi called him Bill (when not referred to as Imzadi) in their younger days as a pet name, but by the time of the Enterprise, he preferred Will and it just took her a few weeks to adjust (with an occassional slip-up).
Maybe the reason he walked out on her back in the day was that he hated being called "Bill" and his irritation finally boiled over.
It also could explain why she never called him Bill after the first season. Why call someone "shaving cream" when they clearly don't shave?
Tam Elbrun called him “Billy boy”....which would be a strange thing for a Betazoid to call a human.I always wondered if Elbrun plucked that name from Riker’s mind.If so is Billy boy a name that rankles with the first officer?
Having met Kyle Riker it seems exactly the sort of name he would taunt his son with.
Having met Kyle Riker it seems exactly the sort of name he would taunt his son with.
It would be a strange thing for a member of a species that has had only limited interaction with humans, but Betazoids are well-established members of the Federation and have been interacting with humans for at least several decades (per TNG, given Deanna's age) -- and Discovery has since established that the UFP was in contact with Betazed by the 2250s. So it's not strange at all that they'd be familiar enough with human names, language, and vernacular to know that nickname. Heck, since humans are the dominant culture in the Federation, other UFP cultures are probably more familiar with human language and culture than humans are with theirs.
Yeah, that's what I read as well.
We've gone down such an interesting rabbit hole because of this, I almost regret remembering that it already happened with DSC with the Mirror Universe comic, which added Owosekun and Airiam to the mirror-Shenzhou crew, despite the fact that the former was vaporized by Lorca and the latter was never seen on either Shenzhou.
Though, since none of the comics are actually canon, we can disregard certain continuity-issues like the Suddenly-Alive Joann Owosekun™ problem in a way that we cannot with the actual TV show itself — me personally, I tend to go with the “twin sister”-theory, since I don’t believe her first name is technically ever mentioned in the issue, only her last name.
can't wait to read it.
IIRC it's written it as a standalone as well, so It probably would have worked even if you didn't like the premier.
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