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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x05 - "The Examples"

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‪‪And Culber and Kovich’s meeting was a powerful one, Wilson Cruz was fantastic, and ‪‪I could feel Hugh’s emotions in that scene. It hit really close to home. Survivor’s guilt is real, and it can at times be debilitating.

‪‪I hadn’t really thought about how much ‪‪I relate to Hugh and his storyline until this scene with Kovich. ‪‪I liked the character a lot from the beginning, largely due to Wilson Cruz’s acting and charm, but now ‪‪I realize that I connect to him through struggling with survivor’s guilt.

As a teenager ‪‪I was in a bad car accident where ‪‪I was thrown from a car at 45 mph, landing on my head in the middle of a busy intersection at rush hour. According to the police and EMT’s, ‪‪I’m only alive today because of an off duty firefighter who happened to be jogging by at that moment.

I’m still impacted by it today, and confronting my survivor’s guilt has been essential in dealing with my PTSD. When Kovich laid it out for Hugh that way, it clicked that ‪‪‪‪I can relate to what he’s going through, the feeling that you’re living on borrowed time, that you don’t deserve the luck you’ve had, and you owe it to everyone who wasn’t so lucky to do more, and be more, than you are. The way this portion of Hugh’s story is unfolding this season rings very true to me, and the emotional acting from Cruz has been absolutely incredible in portraying it.
 
You know, a friend and I don't any of the ships were the USS Janeway, the dialogue said the Janeway was on approach, but those ships appeared to be sitting still.

But it could just be a script/VFX inconsistency.

‪‪I figured the one with the ring that people are thinking is the Janeway was the T’Pau, since it seems to be a fairly evergreen Vulcan starship convention.
 
Some long-winded musings …

“See - this is a real person” Scene of the Week -- Bryce received his mandatory character “development” scene for the season, just as Oko did with her “I can hold my breath for ages” last season. Honestly - Oko, Bryce, Reese … the blond girl, I get they’re glorified extras. That’s fine. But do we really need these nuggets of insights into the NPCs? I’d rather have properly developed supporting characters, nameless red shirts butchered at the helm Nagilum-style, or even interesting one-offs Barclay style. The aforementioned characters all seem to exist in some character purgatory; I find myself feeling sorry for them. The only one to flirt with transcending this status was Detmer with her fleeting PTSD arc last season. Maybe she’ll show up next episode?

Nitpick of the Week -- Couldn’t the DMA experiment have waited until after the rescue effort? We’re talking a couple of hours here – tops. Get the colony evacuated, spore drive it back to Starfleet HQ and get that micro-DMA and containment field all the juice it needs.

Cringe of the Week -- “Let’s go save some lives.” At least we were spared “this is who we are”.

Dick of the Week – Book “I lost my planet so I’ll be a douchebag if I want to”. Fair enough. But look - Felix was ready to go. It might’ve been tough as a bystander, but Felix was at peace with the decision and Burnham – difficult as it was for her of all people – respected said decision. Book didn’t. Moreover, he stormed off the bridge with panties in a twist, acting as if Michael were in the wrong. Was this to put a wedge between the two of them? If so, it seemed fairly contrived.

“Again with the Burnham bashing!” Thoughts of the Week – What makes this show eminently frustrating is – well – the same thing it’s always been. Am I enjoying season 4 more because the A/B/C plotting leaves Michael out of 2/3 of the plot? How much more forgiving would I be if a better actress filled Burnham’s boots?

This may be a case of YMMV that’s pointless debating. I would love to see how another capable actress would’ve tackled the role – even with the same material. But it is what it is. If the writing can push above the consistency they’ve settled into and give SMG something meaty to work with – something to really challenge the character in an engaging manner, it might give her some room to shine. If it’s just going to be more IronBurnham hijinks, thanks Michael for saving everything – next! Well, if that does it for you – cool.

All that being said, that’s still three consecutive episodes containing enough enjoyable elements to qualify as serviceable. Culber and Stamets have fast become my favourite pairing – bought to life by two very capable actors. Culber has been a standout this season. I like what they’ve cobbled together for both of them. Overall, I sense the writers are a bit more settled and comfortable giving the characters some room to breathe.

As for essential plot happenings – I like that this isn’t a natural phenomenon. I hope the party behind the DMA does have nefarious intent, rather than Yet Another Misunderstanding. Although as eschaton said further up, it becomes all to similar to Control if it’s just another Big Bad to be defeated by the season’s end. Perhaps – this could be a bridge to a larger multi-season plot? After all, with the magic of serialisation, you don’t have to wrap everything up neatly in one season and reset for a new mystery box – do you?

I hope it’s The Borg. <ducks>

Anyway, we’ve hit the most precarious juncture of any DISCO season –the halfway point and march towards the finale. No doubt our Risan scientist will have a part to play in the reveal, so yeah … hope we’re finally lining up for a decent pay off.
 
I generally enjoyed the episode, but I wish they had done a few things differently.

Biggest gripe would be that the prisoner being so agreeable didn't really create any kind of moral quandary. Perhaps there's a moral lesson here about suicide being immoral, but it's not really touched on other than Booker putting on his pouty face and being mad that Michael let the guy choose to die as penance for his crime.

It would have been actually interesting if the prisoners were actually morally reprehensible and the fact that Michael would risk her life to save evil people says something greater about the nature of Starfleet or being human or something. It was just easy, because why wouldn't she try to save these people?

The other thing I thought was silly was having the entire B-plot in the first place. You're on this time sensitive rescue mission, and concurrently you have a science experiment on the ship as well? One that, as far as I could tell, didn't actually need to take place on Discovery - or at least during this very specific moment when they had to try to evacuate a colony. That whole plot could have been its own episode, which would have allowed them to flush out the C-plot of the Culber storyline as well - it might have been a nice way to tie in how Stamets and Culber see themselves and define their self-worth, one as the "spore drive" guy and the other as the guy who came back to life.

It really seems like the only reason the two stories were put together was for the ending scene. But they could have done that some other way if they really wanted to.

Still, it was fine. I just think it could have been two great episodes instead of one good one.
 
It was the DMA that was supposed to hit the asteroid - instead they're pushed into their star?!

No, they explained in the episode, the astroids we're on the far edge of the gravitational effects, one degree more and they would have been missed entirety. So what we are seeing is the smallest nudge of the anomaly pushing them out of orbit and into the star.

Unless this guy created the DMA in the first place, how does he have a DMA controller, even if it is only a theoretical mini version?

I thought he based his design on the clear scans the 3 ships got of the controller after it shut down the anomaly but before it disappeared. He then filled in any gaps with his theories on how it should work, and then was proven correct when his model performed like the original.
 
As for essential plot happenings – I like that this isn’t a natural phenomenon. I hope the party behind the DMA does have nefarious intent, rather than Yet Another Misunderstanding.
Geez, I hope so too! Just another misunderstanding would be extremely disappointing. Hopefully, they discover who is causing it earlier in the season and can spend the 2nd half of the season trying to defeat them. Perhaps having all allied species taking them on. I wouldn't recommend extending it into the next season though. Half the season to figure out who and the other half to stop them.
 
It seems I was right: the anomaly is artificially created and it jumps around space.

Considering the mark on Mr. Galaleo's neck, I'm thinking maybe the parasites from "Conspiracy" are behind it, but they aren't really godlike. But then he could have been an Emerald Chain slave too.

NSS T'pau- hope it has a little bit of heart and soul.

Memory Alpha is saying the Janeway was the Connie in the group of three, but I don't know where they got this info from.
 
Better than last week, still not that great. The dialogue writing was no better in the Burnham story, "I can tell this means a lot to you" etc but it was better in the Stamets story.

Rodney McKay wasn't quite as impactive as I hoped he'd be from the trailer, after a short antagonistic spell he became fairly bland. I probably missed something but I didn't get why the experiment had to happen right then and endanger the ship - couldn't they just wait until after the evacuation? Anyway, at least there's an interesting angle on the anomaly there which I hope doesn't resolve to "the emerald chain did it".

Culber remains the best thing about this show. Enjoyed all his bits very much.

Overall, a 6.
 
I was a bit split about this episode. The beginning moved slow, but the tension rose nicely towards the end, I especially liked the moral dilemmas with that one prisoners and his own wishes. Fits nicely, since in the first episode of this season, President Rillak told Burnham to let go of her obsession to save everyone. I understood Books feelings too, and hopefully they will explore this rut in their relationship more in the upcoming episodes.

Stamets really met his superior in this episode, and this was probably the first time he accepted the fact, since he was so fascinated in what Ruan Tarka could do. Saru, of course, stole the show once again and showed some true leadership. I wanted to give this a 9, but since the beginning was so slow, I have to settle for an 8. It really shows that they were working under strict covid-restrictions, hopefully they have adapted better with Picard season 2.
 
Another ep that I generally enjoyed, though once again with the meaningful conversations during a time crunch.

And honestly, why didn't you just give the ball back years ago instead of smuggling it into prison and hiding under the floorboards? If you wanna make the girl whole again, maybe don't deprive her of it for so many years when you don't have to.
 
No, they explained in the episode, the astroids we're on the far edge of the gravitational effects, one degree more and they would have been missed entirety. So what we are seeing is the smallest nudge of the anomaly pushing them out of orbit and into the star.
Ok, so 'in its path' and 'it will hit' meant it didn't hit at all and just went by a little too close, pushing them at warp speed into the star...? Guess I gotta watch it again, that was really unclear XD
 
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