Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x02 - "Anomaly"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Nov 23, 2021.

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  1. Commander Richard

    Commander Richard Licenced to Post Premium Member

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    "Saru returns to help the U.S.S. Discovery uncover the mystery of an unusually destructive new force. As Burnham leads the crew, she must also find a way to help Book cope with an unimaginable loss." - TrekMovie.com

    Just like Spock's return to help with V'ger. A good start to the season with the first episode. Felt very much like Trek with the butterly people but are we sold on the anomaly yet? Let's see how things develop.

     
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  2. KamenRiderBlade

    KamenRiderBlade Commodore Commodore

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    If only they hadn't banned Time Travel technology, then Book could've used it to save the people on Kweijan by going back in time and evacuating the planet before the disaster happened.
     
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  3. Unionized Elf

    Unionized Elf Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Even when time travel technology was legal, that would have been frowned on.
     
  4. KamenRiderBlade

    KamenRiderBlade Commodore Commodore

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    Saving lives is frowned upon?

    Even entire planets?

    Didn't the 29th century StarFleet go back in time to prevent USS Voyager from Time Traveling to prevent a disaster that would've wrecked the Sol System?
     
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  5. Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

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    Not a good idea to muck about with time.
     
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  6. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    Of course it is. I mean, have you watched Star Trek?:lol:
     
  7. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Yes.
     
  8. KamenRiderBlade

    KamenRiderBlade Commodore Commodore

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    I'll have to agree with SF Debris interpretation of the Prime Directive and non-interference.

    It's moral cowardice to sit there and use the Prime Directive as your excuse to not interfere or help those people.

    Especially since Kweijan isn't some strange new planet, it's a well known planet.
     
  9. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I agree. But, in Star Trek this doesn't always happen.
     
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  10. Paul Weaver

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    They used time travel to stop time travel, that's different -- if time travel didn't happen, then Voyager wouldn't have been present in the 29th century Sol. Of course it was a paradox, perhaps even a predestination paradox (with 29th century technology kickstarting the computer revolution of the late 20th century)

    Kirk of course used Time Travel to kidnap some whales and save Earth, but that wasn't time travel to undo something that had happened.

    Picard used time travel to undo Borg time travel (First Contact), or Devidian (Times Arrow). Darvin tried to use time travel to change the past, but was stopped by Sisko and co.

    There were localised time travel incidents where a crew member went back in time in some fashion to undo an event they had witnessed - O'Brien in Visonary for example, or when the crew member prevented time travel and caused a paradox (Odo in Children of Time)

    Discovery of course also used time travel to save the universe from control, but that was forward time travel, which we all do at various speeds (usually about 1minute/minute, but at relativistic speeds that can change). Backwards time travel isn't a problem.

    And then there's the whole "Admiral Janeway" mess from Endgame which is probably the closest situation to a hypothetical Burnham going back in time to save Kweijan. For some reason the time cops weren't interested in those events, perhaps (as I believe suggested in TrekLit) because those actions were critical in stopping the Borg taking over the galaxy, and that counted as more important.
     
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  11. Unionized Elf

    Unionized Elf Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Picard himself said it's better to let planetary civilizations die then violate the Prime Directive and rescue them.
    And by doing so they actually triggered the very event they were trying to prevent. Not a compelling argument in favor of that action.
     
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  12. SantaEddie74

    SantaEddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Daniels went back in time 900 years to get Jonathan Archer involved in the Temporal Cold War but then again he sort of had to if the Federation was ever going to, you know, exist.
     
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  13. Timo

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    Well, Picard had no means of saving the civilization he was talking about. He ended up saving a handful, and some of those felt so good about this salvation that they committed suicide.

    But heroes don't need to observe rules. And they often save folks by going rogue. If this involves time travel, though, we presumably have two distinct presents: one in which a calamity happened in the recent past, and one in which it did not. The heroes basically travel back to the juncture, and then forward again to a different present. But the camera need not follow, and even though Kweijan indeed was saved by at least a couple of million Books, billions of Books chose not to - and the camera is with one of them here.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  14. adv1701

    adv1701 Commander Red Shirt

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    Now isn't the time to argue about time! We don't have the time!
     
  15. fireproof78

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    And this is why time travel sucks so much.
     
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  16. SantaEddie74

    SantaEddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    The time cops didn't prevent the Kelvin Timeline from happening, either, though Season 3 of DSC may have unofficially explained that by saying that the Kelvin Timeline is just as much an alternate reality or dimension as it is a divergent timeline.
     
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  17. Quinton

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    Terrible episode. Really shows how little competence Worstman and Pairofdice possess. This is NOT Star Trek.

    EDIT: whoops it isn't out yet disregard

    ;)
     
  18. SantaEddie74

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    ^

    DAMN THE TEMPORAL COLD WAR!!!
     
  19. SJGardner

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    Sorry about that, I've asked Agent Daniels to replace the original script with a fanfic I've written before he returned to the future. Evidently, my writing skills aren't as good as I've thought. Didn't consider the butterfly effect either.
     
  20. thribs

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    So the question is do I watch this or South Park first?
    Probably leave the best to last