Oh I got the impression from Enterprise that the women run Orion society
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x08 - "The Sanctuary"
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Oh, for sure. I wonder if that hasn't changed since 2154.
Is Osyraa the norm in this time or do Orion women in this century share power?
Is Osyraa the norm in this time or do Orion women in this century share power?
Poor Tendi.
She was all about, "Orions are not a bunch of murderous pirates anymore!"
She's gonna be like, "1000 years and you're LIVING DOWN THE STEREOTYPE!"
It'd be like going to the far future for me and discovering Kentucky is still full of racist hillbillies.
She was all about, "Orions are not a bunch of murderous pirates anymore!"
She's gonna be like, "1000 years and you're LIVING DOWN THE STEREOTYPE!"
It'd be like going to the far future for me and discovering Kentucky is still full of racist hillbillies.
What do you know...a good episode and Burnham didn’t cry once.
A solid 7 from me.
I liked it better than last week by a lot.
Saru and Tilly’s “project” was kinda dumb. I bet he settles on “engage”.
Booker and Burnham work so well together. But so do Culber and Georgiou.
The Adira/Stamets stuff is kinda boring to me.
not a fan of the plastic looking Orions or the fact they are hinting to a sinister side to the Federation. I don’t want them to make the Federation bad guys.
A solid 7 from me.
I liked it better than last week by a lot.
Saru and Tilly’s “project” was kinda dumb. I bet he settles on “engage”.
Booker and Burnham work so well together. But so do Culber and Georgiou.
The Adira/Stamets stuff is kinda boring to me.
not a fan of the plastic looking Orions or the fact they are hinting to a sinister side to the Federation. I don’t want them to make the Federation bad guys.
I think that's a more one-off thing where Tendi is different from the rest of her society.
I think it's more like a stand in for the CCP (Chinese Communist Party). They're a bunch of thugs who want to become a country or nation state and will do anything for that recognition.
The Orion women had the power of Pheremones back in ENT, we don't know if that was a "Natural Ability" of the species or was it artificially created and implanted into the women via Genetic Engineering.
The Orions could have eliminated that from their society by the TOS Movie Era for all we know. Trek is silent on their culture after "The Cage(TOS)" and "The Menagerie, Parts I and II(TOS)" until DSC and the glimpse of Orions we got in the Kelvin Timeline told us nothing about their culture other than at least two Orions were serving in Starfleet in the 2250s.
Tendi, is of course, Tendi and she seems to indicate that they've eschewed piracy by 2380 but we haven't seen if that is indeed true.
Tendi, is of course, Tendi and she seems to indicate that they've eschewed piracy by 2380 but we haven't seen if that is indeed true.
What you mean it isn't?????????????
Some interesting developments in this episode .... Haven't watched it yet but clips on reddit....... Warning spoilers incoming.
Glasses guy makes note of a Romulan mining ship creating a parallel universe, the Kelvin timeline
The future people in 32nd century know about Nero and his ship, would they also know about prime Spock and alternate Spock from the Kelvin universe?
The alien in the episode came from the Kelvin universe.
This is a cool development which means Pine Kirk and Spock could meet Michael Burnham and company, and if you throw in time travel we could have 3 Spocks all together. What a thing that would be?
The future people in 32nd century know about Nero and his ship, would they also know about prime Spock and alternate Spock from the Kelvin universe?
The alien in the episode came from the Kelvin universe.
This is a cool development which means Pine Kirk and Spock could meet Michael Burnham and company, and if you throw in time travel we could have 3 Spocks all together. What a thing that would be?
Re: Pheromone powers
It's a bit like Poison ivy.
We love the Green Girl.
The whole "Date Rape" power isn't one that we really need to keep. We can just ignore it from now on.
It's a bit like Poison ivy.
We love the Green Girl.
The whole "Date Rape" power isn't one that we really need to keep. We can just ignore it from now on.
more like “We just got a super stupid villain who showed they could destroy all life last season in Control.”
The only AI ever to be uninterested in backups and who thinks that taking over a single body is a good idea even while starting as a distributed thing.
Ok, not really the only: bad writing isn’t exclusive of a single show.
Thought the same: the distress signal will likely turn out being the ISS Discovery.
I suspect they’ll try cause a second burn to even the score, since they’re tuning out of dilithium anyway.
I doubt they’re going there in 2020.
We probably won't see the Orion homeworld or home system this season(if at all) but it'd be interesting if they surprised us with a quick visit to their planet. We've seen holographic recreations of the Orion homeworld in LD but that's been it.
So Sylvia Killy caused the Burn? Why would ISS Discovery be using a Federation distress signal? And why hide it in such pleasant music? Wouldn't a Terran ship use something like the Imperial March (we know Shakespeare was the same, but I'm curious what Terran universe Star Wars movies were like).
Yeah it seems that Orion pheromones are being phased out in all depictions as it's basically a date assault drug (just female on male). I can see why they decided to sweep that under the rug, but then again if this ability is being used only by villainous characters I don't see how anyone in the real world could possibly see it as an endorsement of that ability. Removing this aspect also takes away what made the Orions unique, and basically turns them into human villains that just happen to be green.
The AI must've been in early Alpha stages of development to be that stupid.
Why can’t Imperial Starfleet signals be exactly the same?
I thought the music was just a distortion of the signal...?
It just occurred to me that Terran starships would have been constructed probably with some knowledge of Federation starships taken from the Defiant computer. In which case, the ISS Enterprise was very possibly constructed based on the description of the USS Enterprise in the Defiant computer.
I can't see why the Terran Empire would construct Terran ships identical to Federation ones, unless it was as some sort of practicality (just copy the design--but then why keep the names?).
Gave it a 9. Would have been a 10, but there were no tears.
It's a 10 based off Keyla Skywalker's Osyraa Star Run alone.
Pretty sure China is very much a country already
Its best not to think too deep about the MU.
It really should have been left to rest after an episode or 2
This one gets a solid "Meh..."
Didn't really feel like all that much moved forward.
Osyraa is far too cardboard cut-out. No sense of leadership or real menace, just a grade-school bully.
Not at all sold on Tilly as XO. No sense of empathy with Book's people; they were just contrived-situation-of-thre-week. Osyraa's big secret is that she's running out of dilithium (well, gee, really...?) but she's still warping around all over the place?
Resolution for Detmer? Yeah, well OK then.
Saru and a catch phrase? Oh, just get on with it already.
At least they're taking the time to develop storylines for both Georgiou and the "mysterious signal" over several episodes rather than doing one-act info dump.
That said...
Culber rocks. Liked those scenes a lot. Also liking the evolution of the Stamens-Adira relationship. In many ways, it's actually Stamets who is growing and evolving as a result of this -- and Culber is noticing this too.
Didn't really feel like all that much moved forward.
Osyraa is far too cardboard cut-out. No sense of leadership or real menace, just a grade-school bully.
Not at all sold on Tilly as XO. No sense of empathy with Book's people; they were just contrived-situation-of-thre-week. Osyraa's big secret is that she's running out of dilithium (well, gee, really...?) but she's still warping around all over the place?
Resolution for Detmer? Yeah, well OK then.
Saru and a catch phrase? Oh, just get on with it already.
At least they're taking the time to develop storylines for both Georgiou and the "mysterious signal" over several episodes rather than doing one-act info dump.
That said...
Culber rocks. Liked those scenes a lot. Also liking the evolution of the Stamens-Adira relationship. In many ways, it's actually Stamets who is growing and evolving as a result of this -- and Culber is noticing this too.
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