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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x08 - "The Sanctuary"

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Saru’s phrase should be, “spin it”.
He should just point and say, lets discover!
Cleveland Booker is not his real name. It is an alias. We hear his real name a few times in the episode. There's a story behind the name, but we don't know what it is.
Did his brother Kyheem (Ache Hernandez) at one point say his real name?
I liked their dynamic, and peculiar powers.

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We just got a super powerful villain who showed they could destroy all life last season in Control. We may very well get another super powerful villain that single handedly caused the Burn later this season. I'm not sure Discovery needs more of that by making Osyraa some goddess who blows up planets with a thought or something.

Why do we even need a villain at all? I don't find the season has gotten more interesting with the addition of Osyraa and the Emerald Chain.
 
I wonder if it might be quicker to do so, as well as easier on the actors. I didn't realize that about Zhann. That sounds awful.
Yeah, my mom and I saw her at a convention a few years back, and she went through the whole story. She was really miserable by the time she left.
I'm pretty sure there's a good reason they went in this direction with the makeup. The fact that they didn't change their appearance like they did with the Klingons, Andorians, and Telerites makes me think there's a behind the scenes reason for the change.
Weren't the Season 1 Orions turned green in post production, rather than using makeup?
 
Despite the Emerald Chain's bluster, they seem more like competition than enemies. After watching The Ready Room, I got a different perspective. Janet Kidder, who plays Osyrra, said the Emerald Chain views itself as a society that's worked hard to earn its place in this new landscape and wants to be recognized. That's why Osyrra scoffed when Saru said that Ryn wasn't wanted by any recognized societies. Kidder said that the Emerald Chain is jealous of the Federation. And that's when it clicked with me.

Now I have a sense of what the Emerald Chain is. They're loosely like another version of the Dominion. An organization of worlds that's opposed to another organization of worlds (the Federation). The only difference is the Emerald Chain isn't as far along as the Dominion were. And the Federation at its peak probably could've mopped the floor with the Emerald Chain. But with the Federation decimated (literally, since it's a tenth of the size it was: 38 member worlds down from 350), the Emerald Chain sees itself as on the way up. The Federation not acknowledging them as legitimate or "recognized" fuels them even further.
 
I don't know if it was intentional from the writers, but it's interesting that Osyraa named her flagship, Viridian, with a name that's a homonym of the system where James Kirk was killed.
It's a color. A blue-green color to boot.
 
The episode was OK. I don't get why the writers keep making a big fuss about the Emerald Chain and the Orion. They are criminals, not a major threat to the quadrant or the galaxy. They act the same way the Ferengi did in the 23rd century, exploiting lesser advanced races and so on. Hardly the Borg or the Dominion.

That said, I thought Osyraa was an interesting character/villain. I wouldn't mind seeing more of her.

Whatever is tearing the universes apart seems to be affecting Georgiou. That will probably lead her back to the past and the Section 31 show.

Nice action sequence with Detmer and Andorian guy. Book's ship shouldn't be able to inflict major damage to a cruiser like that, though. Also, why not clone some new antennas for the Andorian and give him a new paint job?

The planet felt generic despite the Avatar-type creatures. The estranged brother thing is kind of a cliche too. Anyway, looks like everyone is joining the Federation. Good for them!

So the source of "the burn" is a nebula which is broadcasting the famous song and a Starfleet emergency signal? This has Calypso written all over it. They will have to go full multiverse to pull that one off, IMHO.
 
Honestly, Zareh in the second episode had way more menace and nuance to him than Osyraa. I know he was too low-level to actually be a recurring villain, but he came across as a...realistic bad guy? I mean, not someone who kicks puppies in his spare time, but someone who does what he has to do to stay on top in a chaotic quadrant.

Osyrra makes me kind of long for the antagonists from Picard - which I thought were really hammy at the time. But I'd prefer hammy to a nonentity.
 
Despite the Emerald Chain's bluster, they seem more like competition than enemies. After watching The Ready Room, I got a different perspective. Janet Kidder, who plays Osyrra, said the Emerald Chain views itself as a society that's worked hard to earn its place in this new landscape and wants to be recognized. That's why Osyrra scoffed when Saru said that Ryn wasn't wanted by any recognized societies. Kidder said that the Emerald Chain is jealous of the Federation. And that's when it clicked with me.

Now I have a sense of what the Emerald Chain is. They're loosely like another version of the Dominion. An organization of worlds that's opposed to another organization of worlds (the Federation). The only difference is the Emerald Chain isn't as far along as the Dominion were. And the Federation at its peak probably could've mopped the floor with the Emerald Chain. But with the Federation decimated (literally, since it's a tenth of the size it was: 38 member worlds down from 350), the Emerald Chain sees itself as on the way up. The Federation not acknowledging them as legitimate or "recognized" fuels them even further.
The Emerald Chain is a mafia syndicate just like the Orion Syndicate used to be. It’s an evolution. But definitely not another Dominion like power. They are like the thugs on the block.
 
I have a feeling the distress signal will turn out to be Terran Empire Starfleet - and the Burn will be related to some interdimensional attempt by the Terran Empire to attack/destroy The Federation/Starfleet in the Prime Universe.
 
A temporal attack in that case! Violating the Temporal Accords and breaking centuries of silence.
 
Anyone else notice that Osyrra was handling a 2390s Combadge from Picard during the scene on the junk planet?
 
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