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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x03 - "People of Earth"

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Not going to disagree. That only happened on TOS twice, though. It’s not an every other ep thing until later TNG seasons.
Obviously it's "failing" in an unprecedented way. That happens quite often on Star Trek.
"The tech can't tech!"
"But that's impossible! The tech has a fail safe!"
"Never the less, the tech can not tech!"

This is basic stuff in drama. So I'm still unsure where the "bad writing" come in.
Yeah, my thinking is this is typical Trek tech type stuff. The failsafe failing is pretty much the standard and makes me wonder why the fail safe fails so often. So, I can't sit here and lament this when I feel like it is a Trek staple for decades now.

Not saying people can't criticize it. Go for it. But, it's no egregious if it is part of Trek lore. Then it's just Trek being Trek at this point. Not good, not bad, just is.
 
And a ship that’s designed to explode if something proven to fail fails is stupid.

For all intents and purposes what we are dealing with is an instance of spontaneous transmutation. But instead of lead into gold it's dilithium into quartz. Something that shouldn't happen and thus can't be planned for.
 
Yeah, my thinking is this is typical Trek tech type stuff. The failsafe failing is pretty much the standard and makes me wonder why the fail safe fails so often. So, I can't sit here and lament this when I feel like it is a Trek staple for decades now.

Not saying people can't criticize it. Go for it. But, it's no egregious if it is part of Trek lore. Then it's just Trek being Trek at this point. Not good, not bad, just is.
Yeah if I had a dollar for every time the warp core ejection system failed in TNG, I could probably pay the production cost for a current episode of Discovery.

Hell they practically took the warp court failure ejection scene from TNG's "Yesterday's Enterprise" And put it beat for beat and nearly shot for shot in the first TNG feature film "Generations" <--- so yeah talk about lazy writing...;)
 
For all intents and purposes what we are dealing with is an instance of spontaneous transmutation. But instead of lead into gold it's dilithium into quartz. Something that shouldn't happen and thus can't be planned for.
See, they need Picard and Data so that Data can be ordered to start considering the "impossible" of each scenario.

Or, pull a Voyager and just recalibrate the dumb thing.
 
What Federation? There is none in this planetary system. As far as we know, there is one class m planet and one scientific station on Titan. Moreover, we know that 600 years ago there were some colonies and a space station and that is all. We do not know whether they still exist, whether they were perhaps relocated, for example, 277 years earlier, and so on.


0.00015081ly distance from the Sun to Titan
4,37ly distance to Alpha Centauri
Indeed, everything fits. Especially the implications of a lack of dilithium. Do you still want to criticise the screenwriters and scientific advisors?

Yes I do as 4.37 ly would be perfectly reachable by sublight drive as impulse can reach high fractions of light. It would explain why the lost colony only sent a handful of ships and earth just never bothered.
 
I wonder what that is. Is it the UEDF Academy? A Starfleet Museum? Just some rando business or organization operating out of the former Academy HQ?

I hope they spend a little more time on Earth before heading out to Trillius Prime or whatever.
Its the North American branch of the EDF or a Starfleet musuem

Xenophobia turns cultured, caring people into selfish, myopic dicks.
And 31st century Earth has over 120 years practice of being isolationists, that's 4 generations of mainly selfish pricks. Its second nature to them, remember what the inspector said about the Titans 'they have no respect', that's all Earth wanted, a servile Titan kissing their backside, and since she did not get it, she had a 120 year old 'screw them' attitude.
 
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Pre-Federation Earth wasn't all that much better given the xenophobia that became rampant after the Xindi probe attack of 2153 and Terra Prime existed even before that event. We were barely a century removed from the Third World War and nation-states wiping each other out over economic and ethnic reasons and it seems that the fall of the Federation led humanity to revert to its formerly suspicious state and even paranoia.

The more things change the more they stay the same.
 
People truly underestimate the power of fear. Maybe they need to go read a Green Lantern comic or something.
 
I mean, we haven't gotten to death threats or guilty of blasphemy so far so I think we're doing pretty good.

Also, I never liked Saturn anyway... it knows why...:shifty:
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Has the fact that dilithium exists that wasn’t hurt by the burn been discussed? How’d it not get burned? And how did all these starships not have a dilithium fail safe? We’ve seen dilithium literally cracking in TOS during extended use. New ships can’t handle this? Or that Romulans ships had a black hole drive that I’m assuming didn’t use dilithium?
Also, a thousand years in the future I’d expect Federation worlds to have portals like the Ionians. It’s insane that they never developed better tech that the one supposedly destroying time space.
Burnham tells Saru the dilithium went inert, it didn't explode like we thought. Later, Saru lies about Discovery surviving the Burn by not being at warp when the Burn occurred, and the Earth officer doesn't call BS on him, so that tells us only ships at warp self destructed.

Once the Burn occurs and makes dilithium inert, and dilithium is used for reaction regulation in some way. Warp cores at sub-warp were fine, so either the higher volume power generation of warp, or something about being at warp itself, causes ships to self destruct. My guess is warp core breaches are what occurred if it is due to loss of high power reaction regulation, and not something new.
 
Not if those aliens were born on Earth.

When people say the Americans are xenophobic, very few (if any) of those they're talking about are natives.
 
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