it may not be a mistake but sure will confuse a lot of viewers down the road.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x01 - "That Hope Is You, Part 1"
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^ I think most viewers are intelligent enough to figure out and understand the thought process behind what DSC is doing even if it might seem a little 'off' to them at first.
well, just look at the confusion in this very thread. I guess we’re a bunch of pakleds.
the federation was always the idealized vision of Gene from US. I know that today there are people whose identity is their ethnicity, that is why there is white nationalism and black nationalism. but many more people feel American regardless of skin color and that all Americans are their compatriots regardless of skin color.
Vulcans and humans are part of the same state. a Vulcan living on earth would not be a foreigner because the earth is the capital of his country the federation! It's like a Texan is a foreigner in Washington DC.
or not, it seems that at that time people who continue to use symbols of the federation or continue to believe in the reconstruction of the federation are seen as crazy. they might not be interested in having the name of a long-dead state because that could involve territorial claims that they don't want to make.
As non American I really don't care how US citizens identify and it was not at all part of the equation while postulating a thesis that is way more appropriate once you look at it from any other perspective than an American.
I don't believe I have to say that, but Earth is bigger than one country and it is way more complex than the identity politics of said little place somewhere isolated in it's belief to be the center of all thoughts.
That's what I was thinking. If you line up every ship in a chain you could contact the next sector. I think we will find out that massive areas of space have become un- flyable
there are still Bourbon Restorationists in France. I believe they have a political party.
On a more ancient note, after the last traces of the Western Roman Empire dissolved in the 470's, the dream of it did not die. Almost a hundred years later, Justinian was still trying to recreate a united Roman Empire, and he nearly did. In the end, though he mostly helped make things in the west worst than they already were. Indeed creating the office of Holy Roman Emperor to placate Charlemagne almost 300 years after Romulus-Augustus was sill some glimmer of the idea that had been Rome, though it was not at all a return to some forgotten status quo. It can be a fringe idea, but it can also be an idea held onto by people who have a vague consciousness of better days behind them.
well, just look at the confusion in this very thread. I guess we’re a bunch of pakleds.
I'm not talking about understanding in the moment; I'm talking about future understanding.
Once we get more episodes of DSC from future seasons and "That Hope is You, Part 2" happens, I don't think confusion will persist.
Oh I didn't realize we got shots of any SF crew in the trailer. Thanks
Thought the first episode was amazing! 10 out of 10 for me. Granted my rating could change as I see more episodes this season but I thought at this point it was great! Glad it was as focused as it was on Michael and the immediate aftermath of her making the time jump. Would it have been nice to see the Discovery and the others? Yeah but that would have made the episode to stuff. Having an episode focused on Michael and the new "world" and other focused on the rest of the crew was a good call.
Brave lads in a country that is mad about cutting heads off royalty. Crazy and pointless but brave
Adira - the non-binary character who refers to the Discovery as a "museum" in the 'This season on' trailer - is a 32nd Century Starfleet officer, as is the FTM Transgender Trill character Gray whom we saw in pre-release trailers.
the reality is that the federation has always been a metaphor for the united states
Regarding the "Part 1" thing and the next episode not being "Part 2." Remember The X-Files Seasons 10 and 11, where the first episode of Season 10 was called "My Struggle." The final episode of said season was called "My Struggle II." The first episode of season 11 was called "My Struggle III" and the final episode was called "My Struggle IV."
I know that the leaked episode title list has the final episode of Disco season 3 called "Outside." Things can change. Maybe the season 3 finale is called "Outside." Maybe its called "That Hope is You, Part II." Maybe it has been changed. Maybe Part II will be in season four. We just don't know for sure right now and its silly to speculate until the entirety of season 3's titles are confirmed.
I know that the leaked episode title list has the final episode of Disco season 3 called "Outside." Things can change. Maybe the season 3 finale is called "Outside." Maybe its called "That Hope is You, Part II." Maybe it has been changed. Maybe Part II will be in season four. We just don't know for sure right now and its silly to speculate until the entirety of season 3's titles are confirmed.
Until DSC Season 1. Then the Klingons became the metaphor... Did I say that out loud? Yes I did. The Mirror Universe too, when Lorca flat-out says, "Let's Make the Empire Great Again".
In DSC Season 3, they have to figure out what to do once the shitstorm is over. Kind of like the entire world itself.
Star Trek for a long time was primarily a show made for American audiences, so that makes sense. I do hope they can continue to widen that vision to make it representative of Earth.
Exactly. Allowing this to progress will save confusion now.
Same in Italy and they're looked at with pity by most of us. Them basing their ideas on a lot of historical revisionism doesn't help, of course.
The UK went through their own regicidal period. Everyone will come to their senses, one day. I am not entirely unsympathetic.
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