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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x01 - "That Hope Is You, Part 1"

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Having watched it, I'd give it an 8. Thought it was great, and I have a feeling this season will be the best one yet.

It also further reinforced one of my first impressions of the show - it's direction and cinematography are the best in Trek history. All the directors on the show have been great, but Olatunde Osunsanmi especially.
 
Here's a secret: it doesn't really drop at 3:00am. More like just after 2:00am.

A month or two ago, I would've been able watch it at 2:00am without a problem. But now I'm back to a pre-Covid work schedule again. So now it's not such a good idea.

But you know me. "Not such a good idea" doesn't mean I won't try. ;)
It's all about priorities! :techman:
 
Shouldn't cloning be totally easy in times where transporter technology exist? Just a thought.

Duplicating lifeforms with the transporter is established in canon. The fact that environmentalists dont use it to save endangered species has nothing to do with in universe logic (in some cases you could bring up prime directive but the federation does not exist at this point. And even if I would doubt that Book would give two shits judging by his actions so far soooo....)....its a writers decision because the technology is totally broken and would complicate writing if used to its total potential.
 
The only ways I can think of that happening is a powerful being that is on the level of 'Q' decides to start messing about.

There are only so many Super Powerful beings like 'Q' that can pull these type of shenanigans.
Totally out of the blue guess, but I'm thinking they'll make it some sort of climate change analogy. Years of polluting space with warp drive, time travel, etc. has changed something about it's fabric that caused the dilithium to go boom. Picking up from the TNG episode that led to the warp five limitation. Got some evidence of that with Booker's reaction to a wormhole and the Gorn ruining a section of space.

But, who knows. Wild guess.
 
Totally out of the blue guess, but I'm thinking they'll make it some sort of climate change analogy. Years of polluting space with warp drive, time travel, etc. has changed something about it's fabric that caused the dilithium to go boom. Picking up from the TNG episode that led to the warp five limitation. Got some evidence of that with Booker's reaction to a wormhole and the Gorn ruining a section of space.

But, who knows. Wild guess.

Yep. Three hints to environmental themes in the first episode. I think chances are good that the "burn" is somehow analogic to fossile fuel and/or nuclear power.
 
I think I would like this show more if it wasn't Star Trek, just some generic sci-fi show like Rocket Girl, or Burnham in Space. Having it attached to Star Trek makes me compare it to past ST shows and that kills it for me.
That's interesting. While watching, I got a Star Wars vibe. Not a clone of it or anything. But just a vibe or feel they're going after. Probably intentionally different feel given the large shift in time. I'll be curious if I continue to get that vibe in future episodes or not.
 
The guy waiting for 40 years stretched suspension of disbelief to the extreme. No wonder Book has a low opinion of Federationers. It's not even practical. The guy should have left a holorecording saying that he's not manning the station due to low use, and left his subspace communicator number if a Federationer actually shows up and wants his services (at which point he'll travel back to the station to help said Federationer).
The guy is just supposed to be emblematic of a Federation limping along. A personification of that concept that makes it real to us viewers in the first episode of the season. I wouldn't take it too seriously. I'm sure there will be other remnants of the Federation around actually doing things other than sitting at a desk. Small things, but things.
 
warp drive, time travel, etc. has changed something about it's fabric that caused the dilithium to go boom. Picking up from the TNG episode that led to the warp five limitation. Got some evidence of that with Booker's reaction to a wormhole and the Gorn ruining a section of space.

Thats a good point.

Another possibility: The mycelial network, established and already messed up in this show, somehow also connects dilithium. The spore drive, once a major plot device, could be significant again.

And now its getting wild: What if the Discovery messing with the network somehow caused the burn. The Crew would have to deal with the consequences of their actions....like me as a citizen of an industrial nation. (I personally find that thought so awesome that its totally not gonna happen.)
 
Shouldn't cloning be totally easy in times where transporter technology exist? Just a thought.

Hell, feed a biological Transporter pattern into a replicator and it should be able to materialize the creature. (But no, you'll NEVER see that is Trek because the LAST thing they need is some Evangelicals from the Bible Belt screaming - "How dare they! man CANNOT create life...that's reserved for God!"
 
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Evangelicals from the Bible Belt

I always forget about these people. You almost made me think about Tuvix, gay marriage and how I really should not go down that rabbit hole or even mention that because I couldn't handle the discussion. Oh too late...lets just forget about all of that and enjoy our show about mankind overcoming capitalism, racism and religion produced in a world where.....wait who is nominated for surpreme court???:brickwall:
 
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Thats a good point.

Another possibility: The mycelial network, established and already messed up in this show, somehow also connects dilithium. The spore drive, once a major plot device, could be significant again.

And now its getting wild: What if the Discovery messing with the network somehow caused the burn. The Crew would have to deal with the consequences of their actions....like me as a citizen of an industrial nation. (I personally find that thought so awesome that its totally not gonna happen.)
That would be staggering....if they caused the downfall.

RAMA
 
I enjoyed it and am really looking forward to the next episode.
It's weird watching Trek with no Starfleet as it kinda makes me feel like I'm watching the Expanse but I'm glad DIS is off doing it own thing and hope we get deep into the boring political stuff about the burn and how the federation coped and leave the Andorians with the stupid hand phasers and Matrix of Leadership guns. Other than the silly guns though they done well with the new tech for the most part and I love that holo/replication tech is finally the norm for just changing a room to suit ur needs rather than needing a giant ship

Very happy to have left the awful Klingon love couple behind and it was the first episode of DIS where no characters got on my nerves

It set up lots of mysteries like
How does half the galaxies dilithium explode.
How do sectors become disconnected.
What exactly is Book
The worry is though they tried this in 3 seasons already and botched every landing
 
A few things about this episode:

- those hand weapons are surprisingly bulky. This is over 900 years in the future, after all. Apart from the initial Dustbuster phasers of TNG, hand weapons back then didn't appear to be any larger than a deck of cards. So they go from phasers that small...to this? :confused:

- I no longer think that Sahil is a hologram. At first I thought he was flickering in and out, but then I realized so was everything else (probably an aftereffect from whatever was going on outside). And besides, we see Sahil getting up out of bed every morning, and of course he mentions his father and grandfather, so it wouldn't make any sense for him to be a hologram anyway.

- What eventually happened to the time suit? At first I thought Burnham programmed it to go into space and blow itself up (I distinctly heard her mention 'self destruct') but then it went through the wormhole! Was it supposed to return to its own time, THEN explode? Why would it do that? Wouldn't there be a risk of Control getting ahold of it?

- I LOVE the programmable matter. :mallory:

She mentioned to Spock in the previous episode that she would send the final signal. Did I imagine that she told the suit to send the signal, then self destruct?
 
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