Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x01 - "That Hope Is You, Part 1"
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But one which I honestly cannot disagree with.
”he belongs to himself”. Book says it even before Burnham shows up.
In any case I’m talking broad strokes, not details, of course.
very valid question, we’ll see (or probably we won’t, actually).
Just watched it and damn its great to have Discovery back.
I ended up giving the episode a 7 mainly because i think there was some pacing issues. But i think the episode did a solid job of conveying the confusion of being thrown into a completely unknown time period. The 32nd century feels strange and alien and a little unsettling, which is exactly what i wanted.
Book and grudge were great, i'm keen to see more of this orion/andorian alliance. it almost feels like an anti-federation of sorts with it being a multi-species organisation.
The last scene had me in tears. I live in Melbourne which is still in a stage 4 lockdown and the message of hope the episode ended on was something i sorely needed. No doubt we're going to meet those two Federation ships Sahil detected.
Honorable mention to Book's ship and the new warp/slipstream effect both looked amazing.
Oh dang the scenery was something else. Gone are the days of fake caves and forests
Why isnt it next friday already?
I ended up giving the episode a 7 mainly because i think there was some pacing issues. But i think the episode did a solid job of conveying the confusion of being thrown into a completely unknown time period. The 32nd century feels strange and alien and a little unsettling, which is exactly what i wanted.
Book and grudge were great, i'm keen to see more of this orion/andorian alliance. it almost feels like an anti-federation of sorts with it being a multi-species organisation.
The last scene had me in tears. I live in Melbourne which is still in a stage 4 lockdown and the message of hope the episode ended on was something i sorely needed. No doubt we're going to meet those two Federation ships Sahil detected.
Honorable mention to Book's ship and the new warp/slipstream effect both looked amazing.
Oh dang the scenery was something else. Gone are the days of fake caves and forests
Why isnt it next friday already?
I enjoyed this episode a fair bit, especially the whole adventure with Book. I like him as an addition, I think he helped ground the show and is much more believable as a love interest for SMG if that's what they're doing. The trading post scene was good, played well on Burnhams naivete and the scene with the drugged Michael was hilarious and unusually self aware for this show. I laughed out loud at the ice cream line.
The end scene though was a let down. I guess they wanted to have it in episode one so it felt very rushed and shoehorned in. I liked the general idea of a Last Listening Post, but seriously? This woman he's never seen before walks in, says she's a Commander, and she's suddenly the hope of the Federation? And all that wank with the flag, absurd. That's the moment you put at the end of your mission, not the beginning.
An overall 7 for a good start and a strong standalone story for the main bulk. Let down by the silliness at the end.
The end scene though was a let down. I guess they wanted to have it in episode one so it felt very rushed and shoehorned in. I liked the general idea of a Last Listening Post, but seriously? This woman he's never seen before walks in, says she's a Commander, and she's suddenly the hope of the Federation? And all that wank with the flag, absurd. That's the moment you put at the end of your mission, not the beginning.
An overall 7 for a good start and a strong standalone story for the main bulk. Let down by the silliness at the end.
it was just a revised warp effect.
I'll give the episode a solid 7.5 good fun setting up the story going forward about rebuilding the federation/ searching discovery / finding out what caused the burn, the city scene did feel a bit to star wars to me. But im sitting here wishing i could watch episode 2 now so it must have left a mark on me.
I liked and found Book way more interesting than Ash Tyler was in all of season 1 and 2 of Discovery.
loved the visual direction of this episode with the landscape shots of the planet
I liked and found Book way more interesting than Ash Tyler was in all of season 1 and 2 of Discovery.
loved the visual direction of this episode with the landscape shots of the planet
We know, you have seen better EVERYTHING.
I liked this episode. It felt fresh and a little unexpected.
He was one lonely guy in an abandoned station who had been there since he was a child. Why would he suspect Burnham to be lying? What would she possibly have to gain? It was not just hope for the entire federation, it was hope for this one man who made a big sacrifice to follow in his father's footsteps and for Burnham who recently found out that the federation died. I don't know why you are confusing it with a scene that would formally commemorate the rebirth of the federation. It was two hopeless believers finding hope in each other and taking the first steps towards that rebirth. Wanky, sure but that is how stories work.
I got Expanse/Altered Carbon vibes from the city.........but I guess there's only so many ways to do those.
I think it was mainly the number of Aliens that reminded me of Star Wars. But it could be a call back to when Enterprise visited Orion Slave traders.
Also the structure they were building above the city looked strongly like Babylon 5 to me
Back on the "part 1" thing…whay Part 1? Is there going to be a Part 2 later in the season? Is it a name…Burnham is called Part 1 and Discovery Part 2?
They must have a Part 2 planned?Back on the "part 1" thing…whay Part 1? Is there going to be a Part 2 later in the season? Is it a name…Burnham is called Part 1 and Discovery Part 2?
The first 10 I have ever given DSC.
I probs will revise it down, now that I am less emotional. I am usually like wtf, where do you go numerically for the top 10 eps of all time. So let's say 9.
It felt like Star Trek. It makes me feel like the show is moving in a good, Trekkian direction, though I was fooled by S2a (when it was still kinda metaphysical).
Burnham looked/sounded real at several points! Real joy and sorrow. The giddiness lasted too long imho; then her tear-filled, doe-eyed look returned at the end, good lord. Just stop. Is there code for that in the script like when they used to write "insert technobabble"? Insert teary-eyed sincerity. Well, she was definitely less Johnny One-note, so I'm focusing on the positive.
A "he-man" who loves animals! Great. My daughter (now grown, sigh, wish I coulda watched it with her!) will love it.
The part at the end actually moved me; instead of being told by the writers and music I SHOULD be moved (e.g. Ariam). It was touching and made me think about America.
I probs will revise it down, now that I am less emotional. I am usually like wtf, where do you go numerically for the top 10 eps of all time. So let's say 9.
It felt like Star Trek. It makes me feel like the show is moving in a good, Trekkian direction, though I was fooled by S2a (when it was still kinda metaphysical).
Burnham looked/sounded real at several points! Real joy and sorrow. The giddiness lasted too long imho; then her tear-filled, doe-eyed look returned at the end, good lord. Just stop. Is there code for that in the script like when they used to write "insert technobabble"? Insert teary-eyed sincerity. Well, she was definitely less Johnny One-note, so I'm focusing on the positive.
A "he-man" who loves animals! Great. My daughter (now grown, sigh, wish I coulda watched it with her!) will love it.
The part at the end actually moved me; instead of being told by the writers and music I SHOULD be moved (e.g. Ariam). It was touching and made me think about America.
Um, no. The suit contained a download of all the Sphere Data that Control wanted to get its 'hands' on. The plan was always to have the suit snap back to the future (to break that cycle where control always knew the time and place it would return to); and then Burnham would send it hurtling forward through the timestream for eternity so that Control would never be able to get it; and thus biological intelligent life in the Universe is saved; but Burnham is trapped where she lands; but hopefully she would be reunited with her mother.
That's why when the suit AI stated, "The wormhole is closing..." Burnham jumped up quickly to program and send the suit off into it before it closed. Had it closed, that part of the plan would have been screwed.
The Klingons still on Borath, guarding all the time crystals that are needed to power the technology?
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Actually no, from most reports, HBO spent twice as much as what CBS is spending on Discovery per episode. And no at 8 million per episode for Discovery on average, CBS isn't being cheap; it's just HBO spent a shit ton of money on GoT, and I guess the merchandising and licensing really help them rake it in and recover that cost.
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