• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x01 - "That Hope Is You, Part 1"

Rate the episode...


  • Total voters
    255
Two things that make no sense.

The first, Burnham thinking Dilithium is the heart of every warp drive. She would have known that wasn't true since Zefram Cochrane ran his Warp Drive via fission.

All Time Travel technology being destroyed and outlawed. Because destroying and outlawing stuff in the preset doesn't stop people traveling to your time from the past or future.
true but to make long distance travel efficient you need dilithium
 
But there should be multiple new FTL drives by the 32nd century. Dilithium would be like using coal in today’s standards
Navy trek in the 21st century, Columbus time warps to 2016 and wonders what happened to the Spanish empire, what is this outrageous thing called democracy , why are women treated as equals and what happened to all the slaves? Plus what the hell kind of fuel is gasoline?
He makes attempts to revive his old empire and bring back the good old days...
 
But there should be multiple new FTL drives by the 32nd century. Dilithium would be like using coal in today’s standards
I agree that I should or maybe not. dilithium seemed to be very abundant in the galaxy you don't change something that seems to be cheap, ecologic and efficient.
 
I’m not sure how I feel about this yet. The big picture of the episode and the setup for the season I like. Certain things about it and certain scenes just weren’t well executed.

The whole marketplace scene felt like it escalated to deadly before it was justified to. The space worm eating them felt predictable and a bit cliche. And making him about endangered species felt like a self congratulatory “Issues!” tie in.

I enjoyed druggy Burnham. The whole “I saved all the things”. But then she was simultaneously drugged out of her mind and totally combat ready.

The collapse of the Federation felt justified. If warp became severely limited it makes sense a galaxy wide governing body would fragment.

So I’m optimistic about this season but felt there were lots of problems with the writing and directing for this episode.
 
Navy trek in the 21st century, Columbus time warps to 2016 and wonders what happened to the Spanish empire, what is this outrageous thing called democracy , why are women treated as equals and what happened to all the slaves? Plus what the hell kind of fuel is gasoline?
He makes attempts to revive his old empire and bring back the good old days...
would be surprised because people continue to use sailboats in the future
 
But there should be multiple new FTL drives by the 32nd century. Dilithium would be like using coal in today’s standards
Huh? There will not be a continuous evolution of energy sources in real life and there doesn't need to be one in fiction. Dilithium is just some fake substance that sounds cooler than fusion. To suggest that there needs to be new faker substances in order to make this fictional universe make sense is silly. And parts of China basically run on coal heat in the winter. There are probably a few places literally using it today as we move into colder weather.
 
Heh that’s funny, someone (might have been someone on this site I don’t remember) mentioned other modes of warp power/transportation, like Quantum Slipstream and tetryon power as being alternative to Warp/antimatter reaction after the burn. Both things are bright up in the episode.
 
Navy trek in the 21st century, Columbus time warps to 2016 and wonders what happened to the Spanish empire, what is this outrageous thing called democracy , why are women treated as equals and what happened to all the slaves? Plus what the hell kind of fuel is gasoline?
He makes attempts to revive his old empire and bring back the good old days...
You hit the nail on the head to my core issue with this story (and the show overall), even if it has nothing to do with your point.

Your example perfectly demonstrates what this show could be - beyond the high-concept lite dressing that it will inevitably be.

What if instead, they use this to show that the Federation ideal isn't all that it's craked up to be - with the 'true believers' hawking loaded language similar to what one might have heard in Victorian-era Parlement or the more insidious dog-whistling of modern America? And that, despite all the zinger nacelle sticker slogans to the contrary, the galaxy has gotten [mostly] along fine without the Federation?

But nothing about what I saw looks like that is what's going to happen and they just lazily stroll down the obvious, easy route once again.
 
Huh? There will not be a continuous evolution of energy sources in real life and there doesn't need to be one in fiction. Dilithium is just some fake substance that sounds cooler than fusion. To suggest that there needs to be new faker substances in order to make this fictional universe make sense is silly. And parts of China basically run on coal heat in the winter. There are probably a few places literally using it today as we move into colder weather.
Despite the common assumption/belief, Star Trekverse is not post-scarcity. Dilithium is THE scarcity and has already been shown to be as so before the pretense of it being so finite that it could all be destroyed. So until a near-infinite power source at near (or no) cost is achieved, then the search and development or evolution of power technology will continue.

Nevermind the fact that other power sources would have most likely been 'accidentally' discovered in a millennium's wroth a technological research.
 
Meh.

For me, it wasn't bad but it also wasn't especially compelling. The technology was the highlight. At least I don't feel like I wasted my time watching, and they've managed to not piss me off so far.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top