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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x13 - "Such Sweet Sorrow"

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It was officially renewed after episode 6 streamed (just like the first season).

I'm pretty certain they designed things with the idea that they WOULD get a Season 3 - and if they didn't get a Season 3; CBS might either pony up for a reshoot of some final episode scenes, OR the writers designed it in sch a way that whatever they have in there relating to Season 3 could have been edited out, with the episode up to that point making enough sense; and they then include the 'what would have been' scenes as extras on the Blu-Ray release.

My bet is that it was internally renewed long before it was publically renewed. CBS has their subscriptions numbers. They know how many people watch the show. They know what bump came along in January.
 
Yeah, DISCOVERY's first season was so poorly received that CBS decided to create 5 or 6 others shows based on its performance.
:rolleyes:
It was not what it could have been if there had not been all the problems behind the scenes, with that being said they weren't going to just ditch it all based on Discovery alone as they had nothing to replace it with and were fully committed to making other shows regardless.
 
I get that all this is going to be super-classified or something, but I'm just imagining Spock silently snickering in The Original Series when they stumble into time travel those couple of times.
From TOS - "The Cage" (Hell TOS S1 - "The Menagerie" as well if you want to argue 'canon reference'):

PIKE: "...our Time Warp...Factor 7" ;)

[Oh, and if we include the ENT series.....:whistle::nyah:;)]
 
Guys, question: in the "Previously, on Star Trek Discovery..." recap, there was a clip of tilly interacting with this alien. When did this happen? I don't remember it happening in the first season, neither do I remember it happening in the second season. So...what was that clip of the alien and about that alien being a queen?
 
Guys, question: in the "Previously, on Star Trek Discovery..." recap, there was a clip of tilly interacting with this alien. When did this happen? I don't remember it happening in the first season, neither do I remember it happening in the second season. So...what was that clip of the alien and about that alien being a queen?
It was one of the Short Treks.
 
Yeah, the glanced over the whole thing how they got back onto Discovery. Enterprise just fired on it. The sphere data raised the damn shields. How and when did it lower them so that the crew got back? Is sphere data now AI? Able to know who the good and bad guys are and let the good guys back on the ship?
Ah, but the Enterprise didn't fire. That was part of Burnham's vision. Afterwards it skipped back to them arming the torpedoes, but Burnham telling Pike to stop. The raising of shields might have been an instant defense from Discovery, and because they never actually fired, it never really raised them either.
Guys, question: in the "Previously, on Star Trek Discovery..." recap, there was a clip of tilly interacting with this alien. When did this happen? I don't remember it happening in the first season, neither do I remember it happening in the second season. So...what was that clip of the alien and about that alien being a queen?

The short Trek "Runaway"

Edit: Ninja'd on the last bit.
 
They missed a perfectly good opportunity when Burnham told Sarek "you took me in even though you already had a son" instead of "you took me in even though you already had sons".

It would have been such a subtle line that Discovery wouldn't have gotten in trouble with the movie rights folks.

We needed at least a passing mention of Sybok.
As an old Star Trek (TOS) fan - I have ZERO issues with FORGETTING "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier" exists as anything but a fevered dream of Kirk's one night as he slept by the campfire with Spck and McCoy...and thus in the ACTUAL Star Trek 'Prime' timeline...NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENED! :angel::rommie:;)
 
Guys, question: in the "Previously, on Star Trek Discovery..." recap, there was a clip of tilly interacting with this alien. When did this happen? I don't remember it happening in the first season, neither do I remember it happening in the second season. So...what was that clip of the alien and about that alien being a queen?

Sister to a planetess, well versed in etiquette.Extraordinarily nice. Poe's a killer queen, dark matter, gelatin, dynamite with a phaser beam. Guaranteed to blow Tilly's mind. Anytime. Recommended at the price, insatiable an appetite Wanna try?

It's not one of the best Short Trek's but its worth a look.
 
As an old Star Trek (TOS) fan - I have ZERO issues with FORGETTING "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier" exists as anything but a fevered dream of Kirk's one night as he slept by the campfire with Spck and McCoy...and thus in the ACTUAL Star Trek 'Prime' timeline...NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENED! :angel::rommie:;)
It's Dr. Gabrielle Burnham's fault. We know that somehow she's been shadowing Michael throughout her life, even if minutes at a time.

While sitting in the future, she found records of young Sybok bullying Michael. Dr. Burnham put on her red angel suit, went back in time and killed young Sybok before he even met Michael, covering it up as an accident in Vulcan's harsh landscape.

We were all so concerned Disc removing TOS from the timeline, but it's only removed ST5. :vulcan:
 
This episode had some really good scenes. Enterprise and Discovery look beautiful in space. Like I said it before, I think Discovery's 3d model has only recently become good enough to allow for slow exterior shots. Animations were great. I really got a sense of how massive the ships were.


I still don't know what to think of the bridge, it looks nice, but with way too many lights. Maybe they will turn some of them off at some point.

The uniforms look amazing. You can't beat gold, red and blue.

I think the bridge is about 30% larger than TOS version.


I think the scene where Pike leaves Discovery's bridge was very powerful. The way he stood there for a moment. That's some of the best, if not the best moment in Discovery so far.


I'm so glad the shaky cam use has been reduced to almost nothing. This was very beautifully shot. This might be the first Discovery episode that I want to watch again.


I still dislike the corridors. What they should have done was to have the corridors look like that part between the bridge and the turbolift.


I hate what the visual effects guys have been doing with "things that pop out of nowhere". Mainly helmets - they seem to pop out of the suit, but there is no place to hold the parts of the helmet. It just disappears into the suit. And now they've done that with the evacuation corridors. They just fold out of themselves.
 
Scotty can't be chief engineer of Discovery because of TNG Relics--
PICARD: Constitution class.
SCOTT: Aye. You're familiar with them?
PICARD: There's one in the Fleet museum, but then of course, this is your Enterprise?
SCOTT: I actually served on two. This was the first. She was also the first ship I ever served on as Chief Engineer. You know, I served aboard eleven ships. Freighters, cruisers, starships, but this is the only one I think of. The only one I miss.
Um...Scotty was (unfortunately) shown to have a faulty memory because in that same episode Scotty thought James T. Kirk had pulled the Enerprise (1701) "out of mothballs" to come look for/rescue him...EVEN THOUGH Mr. Scot was on the 1701-B when Kirk 'died' in the 23rd century and was looking AT the hull breached section personally at the time...

[And yes, I get that the IRL/Production reason is the feature film ST:GEN was made AFTER TNG S6 - "Relics" -- but hey, this is STAR TREK continuity here, and we have to have explanations that still account for these types of inconsistencies. :rommie:;)]
 
Ah, but the Enterprise didn't fire. That was part of Burnham's vision. Afterwards it skipped back to them arming the torpedoes, but Burnham telling Pike to stop. The raising of shields might have been an instant defense from Discovery, and because they never actually fired, it never really raised them either.
I'm going to have to rewatch that. I thought Enterprise fired first, kept firing, then her vision started...
 
I hate what the visual effects guys have been doing with "things that pop out of nowhere". Mainly helmets - they seem to pop out of the suit, but there is no place to hold the parts of the helmet. It just disappears into the suit. And now they've done that with the evacuation corridors. They just fold out of themselves.

Dealing with tech and materials from over 200 years in the future. Graphene is already a 2-dimensional material showing a lot of promise in some structual uses. It's no unreasonable to assume further technological wonders leading to flat pack structures that would explode the minds of very clever designers at IKEA.

Also the helmet folding into the suit is something that exists now, if not so transformers-y. The new Boeing CST-100 launch and entry suits have it.
 
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