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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x09 - "Project Daedalus"

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Clear proof that you have indeed not read the 50 pages. ;)

If you had, you’d find the answer would be: Yes. No. Yes. No. Not sure. Maybe. Doesn’t matter. It’s a plot hole. No it’s not. Yes it is, but I don’t care. Etc.

So...the usual consensus. :lol:
The last 50 pages.
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Perhaps the various mines that were fluttering about were disrupting transporter signals.

That'd make good sense. But while this gives our heroes a reason to get past the mines, it then negates

a) the idea that "in range" would be crucial to success (this was actual dialogue!)
b) the idea that the prison would have transporter blockers because of being a prison (the mines had not been there back when criminals would have been trying to escape)

I love the idea that S31 would use a broad range of exotic mines, possibly including but certainly not limited to ones that go kaboom. No doubt there were many more types besides the blade and blackout ones... That they all seem to maneuver a lot is also cool, even if they move very slowly and thus seem to be holding back (this may have been Control's intent, but our heroes never comment on it). That S31 would have to contract abroad for the hardware is also interesting. And it is theoretically compatible with the rest of Trek that the UFP would have rules banning the use of mines - arms limitation deals are the ones least obligated to bow to logic, since the intent never is to eliminate arms as a thing, or limit the death toll or the suffering or anything.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Clear proof that you have indeed not read the 50 pages. ;)

If you had, you’d find the answer would be: Yes. No. Yes. No. Not sure. Maybe. Doesn’t matter. It’s a plot hole. No it’s not. Yes it is, but I don’t care. Etc.

So...the usual consensus. :lol:
Damn, now I am tempted to plow my way through them. :lol:
 
I think they will stick to the spore drive but only use it when unavoidable.
They established that traveling the mycelial network is ok with the spore creatures and save-ish.
It makes the ship unique.

So Stamets would keep his job.
Eventually when the show come to an end they will deal with the issue of why they can not use it anymore.
 
nope - to prevent people who might actually work for the uk to acchieve someting substantial in brussels from getting elected in the first place

the cash is just the icing on the cake (that's the one to have and eat it, too)
I wasn't exactly offering accurate political commentary. You're right, of course. :)
 
I just had a thought: how in the fresh hell could a logic extremist be allowed to serve in Starfleet? We've known ever since "Lethe" that the extremists are a terrorist group bent on eradicating all non-Vulcan influence from Vulcan, and who in fact regard humans (and all other species) as inferior to Vulcans. They even believe that the Federation is a "failed experiment".

So how does this explain Admiral Patar? Sure, all we actually see of her is a simulation by Control, but Cornwell said that she knew Patar personally and knew she was a fanatic (implying that they met well before Patar's death). So why would Patar and her ilk even be allowed to join Starfleet?

And even if they were...why would they WANT to?
It could be a party in the Vulcan political system. Not ALL members of a political party are necessarily terrorists; or use violence.
 
Now that Shukar and Gorch died I hope to see new andorian and telarite characters in the show! There is a place on the bridge now that Airiam died!

The Andorian and Tellarite S31 admirals are not named in the end Credits, it might not be them who died.
 
Actually liked this episode and had a lump in my throat by the end... even though Ariam wasn't really a character that's been explored.. a bit in the face "good friend" and that video at the beach - what happened after that? Why and how did she become an augmented being?

The weakest part, again, was the Spock-Burnham stuff. So, Spock wants to explore his human side, never had much talent at empathy (at least according to Sarek) and gives marriage advice to Stamets... and Burnham's the actually traumatized one with a saving people complex because of her parents' deaths. Which gets reenacted heavy-handedly here. Urgh. Still don't like SMG's acting, but Spock could grow on me... at least he's better than Quinto IMO although those soulful eyes should be banished.

So, the whole S31 angle consists of an AI wanting to evolve and running amok... sort of killing its creators. Not really original. But the fight at the end... why doesn't Burnham at least spend one moment to check on the security officer (whose name I conveniently forgot), she did have a few moments during which she just ran/sat around...

Anyway, at least this episode managed to work without any TOS references (besides the obvious characters).
 
Actually liked this episode and had a lump in my throat by the end... even though Ariam wasn't really a character that's been explored.. a bit in the face "good friend" and that video at the beach - what happened after that? Why and how did she become an augmented being?
She said that their shuttle crashed down the next day after that beach photo was taken.

Tilly (I think it was Tilly) noticed the vial of sand next to the picture and asked:

Tilly: Is this from the same beach?
Airiam: Our last day together. Our shuttle back home went down.​

Airiam didn't give much detail, but I assume he died and her injuries required the augmentations.
 
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