Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x08 - "If Memory Serves"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Mar 7, 2019.

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  1. 10 - A mind-blowing episode.

    50.0%
  2. 9

    25.5%
  3. 8

    15.1%
  4. 7

    5.0%
  5. 6

    2.2%
  6. 5

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  7. 4

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  8. 3

    1.1%
  9. 2

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  10. 1 - I imagined better.

    0.4%
  1. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Admiral Admiral

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    TOS was inconsistent in that fact

    There was an episode where Kirk chased the Enterprise in a shuttle.
     
  2. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    They had to be. The shuttle in "The Menagerie" had to catch up to the Enterprise when it was on its way to Talos IV. Plus they have nacelles and had nacelles.
     
  3. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Commodore Commodore

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    nice little call back to Star Trek Into Darkness with the Section 31 ship chasing a Federation ship.
     
  4. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    No. :p
     
  5. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Damn, CONTROL IS a Computer.
    I bet Spock eventually fuks it up!
    :techman:
     
  6. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Commodore Commodore

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    im starting to wonder if the catalyst was the supernova seen in the ST09 film.
     
  7. CorporalClegg

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    I had to vote 10, despite my general dislike for in-the-moment knee jerk reactions.

    If they do intend to use the story as a soft-preface for Picard show, then having the Hobus explosion factor in the story would make sense.
     
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  8. CorporalClegg

    CorporalClegg Admiral Admiral

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    Oh and control is Amy Acker.

    Obviously.
     
  9. Nfen84life

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    Thanks for the corrections, me and my horrible memory.
     
  10. tomalak301

    tomalak301 Fleet Admiral Premium Member

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    That episode was amazing. Nice use of the Talosian illusion, and Pike really shined. Also we got so much more about the Red Angel, and ok, Airiam is in contact with Section 31 it looks like. This season continues to get better and better, and I even liked Peck as Spock here. Nice sequel to The Cage as well.

    My second 10 in two weeks.
     
  11. Xerxus

    Xerxus Lieutenant Commander Premium Member

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    I don't understand about Discovery's fugitive status. S31 wanted Spock's information any means necessary. The "Starfleet" branch wants it humanely. They have the information now. I'm sure Starfleet will be happy to get the info regardless. It's been shown that there's a lot of leeway on officers as long as they deliver the goods.

    Airiam = Control = Skynet exterminating all life in the future.
     
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  12. The Habs Fan

    The Habs Fan Commodore Commodore

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    A 10 from me as well. Not sure yet if it’s the best Discovery episode so far, but it’s up there.
     
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  13. IMC Headquarters

    IMC Headquarters Fleet Captain Premium Member

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    Talos IV is a Doctor Who planet!!! The quarry hosts our quarry!

    So Mirror-G boasts genocide of her universe's Talosians and their singing plants. Oh dear...

    Poor Paul. That man's heart is breaking all over again. I'd think twice before plugging him into the Spore Drive right now.
     
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  14. CorporalClegg

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    I don't think that's it. So much as she's working "for" Control.

    I think the quick take here - so far - is that the future AI "sentinels" (for lack of a better term) DLed their protocols into Ariam - they haven't really said what she is, but suffice it to say she's probably some form of pre-Soong human super-intelligence capable of processing data (ahem) as thought.

    Anyway, she's got the future evil AI subconsciously controlling her actions and that AI is most likely a more advanced version of Control.
     
  15. Lord Garth

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    I like where they're going with Culber. Incidentally, Pike was right about the altercation between Tyler and Culber, and he was right about Saru. He said everything I was thinking.

    Everything connected to Talos IV is still top-notch so far.
     
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  16. tomalak301

    tomalak301 Fleet Admiral Premium Member

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    Ok, I'm reading things about computers and controls and did I miss that in this episode I just watched?
     
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  17. Turtletrekker

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    I believe I spotted Lieutenant Nilsson, aka the first Airiam actress Sara Mitich, in this episode. If that was her that I spotted, she even had dialogue.
     
  18. Tuskin38

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    Someone in the episode said Control was an analytical program. And Georgiou said in her universe the AI takes orders not the other way around.
     
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  19. Xerxus

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    During the briefing with the Admirals, they talked about Control's Threat Analysis algorithms or something, and afterwards Georgiou says that in her universe AI serves humans, not the other way around.
     
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  20. tomalak301

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    She was the one in the scene where Stamets was getting into the Spore Drive, right? Yeah she looked familiar from the first episode.
     
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