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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x03 - "Point of Light"

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Now, they are adding a loony-bin artificial intelligence program, created within the Federation and antagonistic to the values of the Federation, into the canon Star Trek. :censored:

(Info on CONTROL: Control_(program))
There’s no evidence of that yet. Control might just be the name for their central command.

They might have named it that as a nod. But I doubt that’s what they’re doing.
 
What this episode ultimately confirmed for me is that people should not at all expect the episodes to follow one format. That was a concern I had after last week. I enjoyed New Eden a lot but I certainly did not want all the episodes to be structured the way it was. Brother wasn't and Point of Light wasn't. Each of the episodes so far have been setup very differently and I like that that a LOT!

Some episodes can be more standaloneish. Others can and should be allowed to tie directly into the overall serial narrative. and just push the story forward, answer questions, give new ones. Anyone that really thought that was going away I feel were setting up their own disappointment.

I can understand some people feeling a certain way if they thought New Eden's structure was going to be the norm though. That had to be broken and better to do it early.
 
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I liked when L’Rell was talking to the council in Klingon, but what we heard changed to English. Very Hunt for Red October-esque.
I really enjoyed that. I'm down for them doing that. I just need some Klingon language. They don't need to be speaking it all the time but I need it some of the time.

I also really enjoyed that split screen between Michael and Ash when they were talking. That was really good!
 
There’s no evidence of that yet. Control might just be the name for their central command.

They might have named it that as a nod. But I doubt that’s what they’re doing.

Perhaps. Then again, we got a Short Trek that featured a sentient AI evolving from the Discovery's computer. Might be a coincidence or a clue.
 
This episode is pure, unadulterated Discovery. I love it for the same reason a number of people here don't. This is what I'm talking about. Despite the new additions, despite the new storyline, the show hasn't wavered. And neither have I.
Pretty much this. I loved the Klingon and Section 31 stuff. The darker stuff doesn't bother me. Klingons have always had a dark bloody culture. If we're being honest, the blood and entrails approach to Klingons is probably the most accurate version we're ever going to see. For all of the Bat'leths and Mek'leth's we saw being deployed in Berma-Trek, there was a shockingly small amount of blood spilled. Nothing about the Klingons that we saw tonight can said to be out of the cultural norms that have been previously established. It's just the first time we are seeing it being depicted rather than spoken of in whispers or in overblown bar-room tales that grow in the re-telling. These are Klingons, baby! Of course, this is the first show that has given us a regular character within the Klingon culture to more deeply explore things. As much work that was done with the Klingons through Worf, he was almost always an outsider.

So much groundwork laid out in this episode. I imagine that after the season wraps we will look to this episode as being pivotal. Our narrative focus just went from a single ship to Discovery, Q'onos and Section 31. I am intrigued to see how all of the various threads will tie together.
 
OK, how exactly do these Klingons reproduce and why had L’Rell never met her son? Did she have him extracted and raised in an incubator? Did she make him in a lab? I still am foggy on exactly what Tyler/Voq is.

I like Section 31. The idealistic, shiny facade of Star Trek is not realistic without the clean up crew that operates in the shadows.

Amanda is right. She was a bad mother, apparently to both of them if her reaction to Michael is any indication. She seems to run hot and cold. A confused, frightened, angry little girl runs away from them after terrorists try to kill her and then says something mean to her foster brother because she thinks the terrorists might try to kill him too. She then tries to turn herself into as perfect a Vulcan as a human child can be and suppresses her emotions, probably to try to keep herself safe and to please Sarek. Spock also suppresses his emotions and turns remote. And Amanda, who clearly knew better, let it happen and lets her very screwed up husband make them both sociological experiments. I still wonder how they ended up raising Michael and who thought it was a good idea.

The Tilly/microbe story is probably leading to something. I assume it’s connected somehow to the red angel.
 
Yeah, I dunno what to think here. It's definitely like a Season 1 episode than the first two. It felt like a "slice of an arc" rather than a standalone story. It tried to do three things at once (mostly to keep all of the cast involved I think) but really didn't spend enough time on any of them for my tastes.

I would define the Klingon plotline with L'Rell and Ash as the "A plot" of this episode, since it clearly got the most screen time. I honestly didn't mind it. It was done much, much better than the Klingon politics from the first season. Qonos finally felt kind of like a real place (though seriously - is the sun ever out guys?). What made the plot work for me was mostly that Mary Chieffo and Shazad Latif put in damn good performances, portraying the complexity of the emotions that each of their characters felt with aplomb. The scripting here felt a bit tighter too - maybe because this plot was focusing on emotions, rather than exposition. I knew the left field appearance of MU Georgiou was coming, but it was still honestly unwelcome. Her character really only existed as a dues ex machina to move the plot along, and blunted a lot of the earlier emotional impact. Nothing about her reveal made me feel any more confident about Section 31 being a major element going forward.

The B plot was basically Micheal and Amanda Grayson talking alone in a room together about Spock. It was just exposition for the sake of the viewer in a lot of ways, but Mia Kirshner just hit it out of the park in terms of a performance here, which made it forgivable when she was delivering the lines. Unfortunately, she kinda outacts SMG, which made Micheal's responses back seem a bit off in places - a bit too matter of fact. I'm still deeply conflicted about adding this entire tortured backstory to Spock which had never existed. I loved how Amanda basically walked out on Micheal at the end, furious at what Micheal had done to push Spock away long ago - that we didn't get the neat and easy resolution

The C plot - Tilly's "imaginary friend" and its removal - was kinda rote, though it continued to be creepy. I'm happy they went with a technobabble explanation rather than yet more woo. But it still felt like it was awkwardly wedged into the episode - largely to give Tilly and Saru something to do. Hell, Stamets appeared for all of two minutes in this episode - basically just gave some spore techobabble and then sucked the lifeform out of Tilly. I realize in a series like this not everyone can have an integral plot role every week, but his character has been getting quite short shift for awhile now.
 
I like how the subtitles turned into Klingon for a second
It's weird seeing the English subtitles in Times New Roman (all caps), and then we're switched to the pIqaD subtitles in a font that reminds me of Helvetica, Arial and the like.

(Good to see that pIqaD is now interpreted in multiple typographical styles, though. Which member of the graphic design staff followed that thought to its proper conclusion?)
 
The same actor who played Kol was playing the father. I recognized the voice.

Wasn't Kol of the House of Kor? Is Kor currently serving in the fleet? Given his status in ten years, I imagine that his house comes through this without serious incident. Is there another re-casting of a TOS character in the works?
 
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