Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x12 - "Vaulting Ambition"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Jan 21, 2018.

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  1. Grendelsbayne

    Grendelsbayne Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    That last one was Nova Squadron, not Red Squad.
     
    Grendelsbayne, Jan 29, 2018
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  2. indranee

    indranee Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Yes, I'm giving DSC the time. Mainly, because it's such a fantastic show in itself. And there's plenty of time for it to come into its own Trek space in the future.
     
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    indranee, Jan 29, 2018
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  3. Locutus of Bored

    Locutus of Bored Yo, Dawg! I Heard You Like Avatars... In Memoriam

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    Ah, thanks.
     
    Locutus of Bored, Jan 29, 2018
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  4. cultcross

    cultcross Postponed for the snooker Moderator

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    It's quite normal in modern day militaries for doctors to graduate at higher ranks. They are much higher qualified than the average graduate, need authority in their jobs, and also they have to have pay grades which are at least similar to what they could expect as a civilian doctor. We can argue elsewhere over whether the latter applies to Starfleet....

    Yeah, the Lorca-orchestrated-it-all plotline explains Tilly and Landry as much as Stamets and Burnham. Lorca wanted the people he knew on the other side.
     
    cultcross, Jan 29, 2018
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  5. Tim Thomason

    Tim Thomason Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    She's an engineering genius. I like to think precocious Cadet Killy developing some sort of undetectable transporter drone kit, and then using it to instantaneously kill 50 people above her one day.

    MU Rhys: "What the hell is happening?!"
    MU Killy: "I have no idea, but if you make me Captain, it will probably stop."
     
    Tim Thomason, Jan 29, 2018
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  6. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Admiral Premium Member

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    Young cadets like that are full of piss and vinegar anyway, all thinking they're completely invincible and acting like Audie Murphy with 'roid rage. Saw it in ROTC all the time back in the day. They're all looking to make their bones and be visible enough to command so that they have a better sponsor and MOS pick by the time they graduate and land their commission. In the situation of the Valiant, you add a "Lord of the Flies" scenario into an already toxic mix of youthful bravado and you wind up getting a baby silverback gorilla playing with a thermonuclear device. They were quite accurately portrayed, IMO. :)
     
    137th Gebirg, Jan 29, 2018
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  7. Jadeb

    Jadeb Commodore Commodore

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    Imagine Lorca's reaction when he expected Capt. Killy and got Tilly. Kind of a shame we didn't get to see that.
     
    Jadeb, Jan 29, 2018
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  8. XCV330

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    In his farewell speech to the crew he seemed proud of the work he'd done ramping them up. I think he took it as a challenge to get these wierd hippy-cult members into some kind of fighting shape.
     
    XCV330, Jan 29, 2018
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  9. Jack Watkins

    Jack Watkins Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    A little late, but my take on "Vaulting Ambition" (for anyone still reading this thread :-) ). https://wp.me/p8wVHj-bp
     
    Jack Watkins, Feb 1, 2018
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  10. Longinus

    Longinus Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    But that was painfully stupid.

    (Not that I have a problem with Tilly, they're probably not gonna make her captain for reals.)
     
    Longinus, Feb 1, 2018
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  11. Jack Watkins

    Jack Watkins Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    That's Captain "Killy" to you!
     
    Jack Watkins, Feb 1, 2018
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  12. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I suffered no ill effects ;)
     
    fireproof78, Feb 1, 2018
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  13. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Vice Admiral Moderator

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    Proof that Starfleet is run by idiots and we wonder why the Andorians and Tellarites stay away...:hugegrin:
     
    Nyotarules, Feb 1, 2018
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