Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x07 - "Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Oct 29, 2017.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - That was a blast! I repeat… That was a blast!

    18.6%
  2. 9

    21.9%
  3. 8

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  4. 7

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  5. 6

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  6. 5

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  7. 4

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  8. 3

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  9. 2

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  10. 1 - I want my 30 minutes back.

    3.9%
  1. Noname Given

    Noname Given Admiral Admiral

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    IDK - If Stamets picks up on anything from Ash about that, and remembers, it would blow his cover. Remember we didn't see every loop but per Mudd, he'd killed Lorca 53 times (implying 53 loops to that point) - so it was at least 55+ loops. No wonder Stamets was ready to throw himself out an airlock. ;)
     
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  2. nos_astra

    nos_astra Cadet Newbie

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    I voted a 10. I know, I know.

    It was a silly episode. But it was sooooo much fun.
    It's not at all what I expected from DSC. I'm usually into serious, dark-ish, serialized. And this was not.

    I loved it. I'm still giggling. Stamets has become a favorite of mine, as have Tyler and Tilly. Even Lorca was almost likeable and seeing him die was pretty cathartic.
     
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  3. CorporalClegg

    CorporalClegg Admiral Admiral

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    So watching the same mass murder over and over again isn't dark?

    K.
     
  4. XCV330

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    DSC, STD, DISCO (which is fucking cooler). They're all good.
     
  5. Tesophius

    Tesophius Captain Captain

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    Yes, agreed, I blocked that moment out of my mind. There are so many reasons why people wouldn't be bound to wheelchairs in the 23rd century that it's not even worth addressing. The Orville's practical joke with the leg makes more sense than wheelchairs centuries from now.
     
  6. Timo

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    Regarding Mudd's "cruelty", it's pretty remarkable that we see two loops where Mudd is convinced he's winning - and in neither of those loops does he choose to crown his achievement by killing Lorca and thus leaving him dead.

    Basically, Mudd works his way through a number of steps where he can kill, eat or impregnate people because it doesn't matter. And then we get the "two final" loops in which Mudd actually calls the Klingons. In one, he "callously" kills Tyler. In the other, he kills nobody.

    I wonder how Mudd defeated the initial intruder alert at the start of each loop? I mean, first he sneaks in inside the space fish, and then he beams out from there and into a suitably chosen part of the ship, and there he uses his newly acquired experience for shutting down the alarms. But why doesn't the initial transporting trigger the alarms? Just because it is initiated from inside the Discovery?

    ...Okay, how many loops? Mudd kills Lorca 53 times, but he doesn't kill Lorca on every loop, so that only gives us the minimum (of 56). That amounts to about thirty hours of action already - no wonder he's yawning towards the end! It's not as if he could spend time sleeping between the loops. But he probably realized that and slept well before first stepping out of the fish. Still, there's a limit to how many loops he can do, even on stims. A hundred would amount to staying awake for two days...

    Timo Saloniemi
     
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  7. Noname Given

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    ^^^
    The Klingons in the TOS timeframe have 'mind sifter' tech (see TOS - "Errand of Mercy") - so no, not hard to implant info,

    Remember Ash said he was captured at "The Battle of the Binaries" - Voq's crew spent 6 months there trying to salvage what they could to repair their ship; and boarded most of the wrecks. Very easy to take info about an officer who died there (that Starfleet lists as 'missing' and have the spy assume his identity.

    Modified Augment virus. The Klingon spy from TOS - "The Trouble With Tribbles" avoided detection long enough to become the trusted assistant of a high ranking Federation official.

    See answwer to 1) above. ;)
     
  8. Captain pl1ngpl0ng

    Captain pl1ngpl0ng Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Big daddy space whale?
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  9. Tesophius

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    It's either STD, Discovery or maybe I'll let a Disco slide here or there, but not a DSC. How do you pronounce that, DISQUE or DEE ASS SEE? It's the worst abbreviation in the history of Star Trek.
     
  10. Saul

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    Actually there was a bit where Ash is hit by the black matter and for a second I thought I heard Voq.
     
  11. XCV330

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    Lucious Malfoy stole all the skele-gro from sickbay.
     
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  12. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Rear Admiral Moderator

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    Kirk kissed good looking guys..er gals all the time...
     
  13. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Commodore Commodore

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    Well cybernetics and gene therapy are both banned in Star Trek.
     
  14. UssGlenn

    UssGlenn Commodore Commodore

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    If it makes you feel better, there is no evidence that he wasn't just temporarily wheelchair bound during his recuperation

    when did they say they banned cybernetics? plus we've seen multiple people in Discovery with tech implants.
     
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  15. XCV330

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    It's an abbreviation, not an acronym. Why does how you pronounce an abbreviation matter? It's three syllables. Add another and you can just stay Discovery.
     
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  16. Tuskin38

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    You pronounce it like 'Disk'. You hear it said over the Shuttle comms in Episode 3.

    The shuttles call sign is DSC-01
     
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  17. Tuskin38

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    And Geordi had cybernetic implants as well in TNG.
     
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  18. Noname Given

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    And I guess Guinan was on leave/vacation from the 1701-D when the events of TNG - "Cause and Effect" occurred too. ( mean she was shown to have 'non-linear time' perception back in the TNG 3rd season episode "Yesterday's Enterprise" two season earlier. ;)
     
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  19. XCV330

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    TOS Pike was reduced to a armoured-martcart with a single blinkenlight. There are limites to 23rd century medicine. We'll never know what Metallica songs he was composing in his noggin.
     
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  20. SpocksOddSocks

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    Yep, or even DIS to be more in line with VOY and ENT that are the more common short versions in use for Voyager and Enterprise. But the whole "we shouldn't use the one I don't like" feels a bit wrong to me. Also none of the abbreviations do. (DISCO is my preference though, I tend to read STD straight faced, but DISCO usually makes me smile).

    In contrast, referring to the tardigrade as a "tartigrade" (which I see on the forum regularly) does actually bother me a little... I just don't moan about it.
     
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