Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x07 - "Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Oct 29, 2017.

?

Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - That was a blast! I repeat… That was a blast!

    18.6%
  2. 9

    22.2%
  3. 8

    22.8%
  4. 7

    15.3%
  5. 6

    7.2%
  6. 5

    4.8%
  7. 4

    3.0%
  8. 3

    1.2%
  9. 2

    1.2%
  10. 1 - I want my 30 minutes back.

    3.9%
  1. DigificWriter

    DigificWriter Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 20, 2001
    Location:
    West Haven, UT, USA
    Please stop referring to Discovery as "STD"; the official abbreviation is DSC.
     
  2. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2011
    Burnham is on a journey of self-discovery as we've seen from the very beginning. She has a bit of a Space version of Borderline Personality Disorder as she's continually tried to imitate the people around her whether they're Sarek, Georgiou, or Captain Lorca to an extent. Now only after discovering she didn't let down any of her mentors is she starting to become someone unique.

    I think people's biggest issue with Star Trek: Discovery is everyone expects everything illustrated NOW when this seems like a show which needed either tighter focus on Michael or a longer number of episodes.
     
    Grendelsbayne and CRM-114 like this.
  3. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2011
    Honestly, unless we're all children, is there any reason why STD has to be discarded?
     
    Mechanoid1, Nerys Myk, Gonzo and 3 others like this.
  4. DigificWriter

    DigificWriter Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 20, 2001
    Location:
    West Haven, UT, USA
    ^ Because it's stupid and inaccurate, as well as problematic.
     
  5. Tesophius

    Tesophius Captain Captain

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2016
    Location:
    NEW YORK CITY
    The fact that it's dark is an objective criticism. And it's also a legitimate one as a subject of discussion, because it did get much lighter in the last episode.
     
  6. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2011
    It's "Star.Trek.Discovery."

    If you're 5 years old you think "Sexually Transmitted Disease" but is that really so common?
     
    Gonzo likes this.
  7. DigificWriter

    DigificWriter Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 20, 2001
    Location:
    West Haven, UT, USA
    ^ That argument is bunk. It's like trying to defend "reappropriating" the Swastika .
     
    Neumann likes this.
  8. Tracer Bullet

    Tracer Bullet Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2005
    Location:
    Philadelphia
    Is Voyager's abbreviation "STV"? Is Enterprise's abbreviation "STE"? No.

    Besides, you're both wrong. It's "Disco". :)
     
    Feron, Campe, NOVE9 and 3 others like this.
  9. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2011
    The fact their relationship IS perfect is why I'm calling "The Manchurian Candidate" as the way it's going to go. L'Rell is going to activate his sleeper agent programming and he's going to suddenly awaken to being Voq with memories of being Ash Tyler and get torn between them.

    Which is the way it should be.

    As for why they couldn't sense he wasn't human--the answer is SCIENCEEEEEEEEEEEEE. ALIEN SCIENCE.
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2017
    Grendelsbayne, CRM-114 and Rahul like this.
  10. Sakonna

    Sakonna Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2015
    So I see a lot of party outrage! I liked it overall, but I get the negative response, in that I agree they went a tad overboard with all the "they party just like we do today!" indicators.

    It made me think of that famous Coco Chanel quote -- before you leave the house, look in the mirror and remove one accessory.

    Someone needed to give this sequence one last pass and drop one element from the edit. I would have cut the shots of beer pong. That's all it would have taken to go from "trying a bit too hard" to "just right."
     
    Grendelsbayne and T'Bonz like this.
  11. Saul

    Saul Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2002
    Location:
    東京
    6. As time loop episodes go this was pretty disappointing. Tell me a secret you didn't tell anyone else is elementary stuff as plots go.
    Lorca is sitting! Is that a sign of weakness?

    Time crystals... Groan. Wonder if this will be the new thing in season 2 when they can't use the spore drive anymore.

    Nope, I will call it as I like. DISCO.
     
    137th Gebirg and Philip Guyott like this.
  12. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2011
    Yes because that's totally the same thing.

    *pause*

    That was sarcasm by the way.

    Also, why isn't ST:V and ST:E not appropriate? Aside from the fact ST:V is Star Trek V.
     
    137th Gebirg, Philip Guyott and Saul like this.
  13. CorporalClegg

    CorporalClegg Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2001
    Are you fucking serious?
     
  14. DigificWriter

    DigificWriter Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 20, 2001
    Location:
    West Haven, UT, USA
    It actually is, but nice try.

    Moving on now.
     
  15. Sakonna

    Sakonna Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2015
    It's true what they say: any discussion about the appropriate message board abbreviation for a franchise's 7th series is over as soon as someone invokes the Nazi's.

    Gave me fond flashbacks to DS9's capriciously used Orb Of Time!
     
    lawman and Grendelsbayne like this.
  16. KirkusOveractus

    KirkusOveractus Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2009
    Location:
    Ambler, PA
    They even have shirts saying so! Alright, I'm weak, dammit! I ordered one, OK?
     
  17. Boomer359

    Boomer359 Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2004
    Location:
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    I quite liked the party scene. It seems like it might be one of the few examples in Trek where the participants looked like they were actually having fun. And it was cool that the disco lights were visible on the outside of the ship. That was a nice touch. Really drives home all those times in past iterations where it was obvious that they were just reusing the same exterior shots over and over again.

    The one thing about the party scene that I found a little jarring, though, was the apparently wounded officer in the wheelchair. No idea what happened to the character, but they usually portray medical technology as having advanced beyond that kind of thing (with the obvious exception of the Pike; that crazy, de-aging Admiral; and broken Worf before the experimental surgery).
     
    Tesophius and XCV330 like this.
  18. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2011
    ....I think so.
     
  19. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Vice Admiral Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2016
    Location:
    London
    Because humans still believe Earth is the center of the galaxy
     
    Ronald Held likes this.
  20. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2011
    Neelix not having lung replacements.
    Kelvin Pike being wheelchair bound

    We could go on for all the other times.

    But my headcanon is that Star Trek is sort of like Red Queen Syndrome writ large.

    As soon as they find a cure for cancer, they find space cancer that they can't cure. Dude might have been hit by neuro-disruptor damage or other nonsense that can't be repaired.

    There's also the possibility the guy isn't crippled for life but maybe 3 or 4 months while they grow him a new spine.

    Which is still a sacrifice.