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Star Trek Conspiracy

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OK. So the best knockbacks are: "where is the evidence?" - (it's conclusive). And that I host major media venures, and among many other enterprises, managed Eddie Guerrero. Proud of all the fun.
 
tommy_boyd said:
OK. So the best knockbacks are: "where is the evidence?" - (it's conclusive). And that I host major media venures, and among many other enterprises, managed Eddie Guerrero. Proud of all the fun.

If its conclusive share it so we can all reference it please.

if not troll elsewhere.

Ofcourse you are gonna hear "Where's the evidence" sir, you keep mentioning it but not sourcing it so we can see as you did for ourselves.

I do not think that unreasonable for anyone to ask? Hardly worth you mocking it.
 
Actually, as everyone knows, Star Trek was originally financed by the Mattachine Society. With falling support, they poured all their money into Rodenberry's project. The evidence? Well, originally GR planned on having a full heterosexual crew (50% men, 50% women) (we all know about Gene's sexual exploits). But, needing money, Gene was convinced to make the crew 33% women, 33% male heterosexual...and the other third male homosexual. It was this way that the Mattachine Society hoped to show the world that homosexuality was a normal part of the human condition.

It was also why George Takei was employed, and why StarFleet Headquarters was in San Francisco!

Other signs of gayness was in the naming of characters - Ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssspock, Jamessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss T. Kirky-Wirky, Sssssssssssssssssssssssulu, Ssssssssssssscotty, etc.

By 1969, however, the Mattachine Society had become irrelevant and drag queens ruled the day. Hence the last episode of the series - Turnabout Intruder began a new Trek tradition of cross dressing.

The evidence is there, people! You just need to know where to look and have a vivid imagination. ;)
 
tommy_boyd said:
OK. So the best knockbacks are: "where is the evidence?" - (it's conclusive).

Is it as conclusive as the evidence that you're providing here, that you're a prize nutjob?
 
ChristopherPike said:
tommy_boyd said:
I'm as big a fan of ST as anyone...
Really?

http://www.tommyboydshrine.co.uk/treknight.htm

Thought not.

:lol:
Outstanding call, Christopher Pike. That radio call in show is on right now. This is all beginning to make sense. Some fanboy of Tommy Boyd's is listening to the radio right now and typing us with the reptilian part of his brain that still works.

I bet he's typing with one hand.
 
Sisu said:
Actually, as everyone knows, Star Trek was originally financed by the Mattachine Society. With falling support, they poured all their money into Rodenberry's project. The evidence? Well, originally GR planned on having a full heterosexual crew (50% men, 50% women) (we all know about Gene's sexual exploits). But, needing money, Gene was convinced to make the crew 33% women, 33% male heterosexual...and the other third male homosexual. It was this way that the Mattachine Society hoped to show the world that homosexuality was a normal part of the human condition.

It was also why George Takei was employed, and why StarFleet Headquarters was in San Francisco!

Other signs of gayness was in the naming of characters - Ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssspock, Jamessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss T. Kirky-Wirky, Sssssssssssssssssssssssulu, Ssssssssssssscotty, etc.

By 1969, however, the Mattachine Society had become irrelevant and drag queens ruled the day. Hence the last episode of the series - Turnabout Intruder began a new Trek tradition of cross dressing.

The evidence is there, people! You just need to know where to look and have a vivid imagination. ;)

To be fair, that makes MORE sense..... :lol:
 
Im still waiting to hear some source material for the evidence so I can intelligently debate this one.
 
tommy_boyd said:
OK. Thanks for the responses. Would any of you doubters be prepared to argue your case on the radio?
Not me. I'm hungry and am going to get dinner. You're not worth an empty stomach.
 
Vonstadt said:
Im still waiting to hear some source material for the evidence so I can intelligently debate this one.

You are brave, I will give you that.
 
Callers would often state their annoyance then quickly hang up, not wishing to cross swords with Boyd. Those who were brave enough be it to complain or to disagree with many of Boyd's proposals would frequently find themselves confronted with a strong argument.

Taken from Tommy's wikipedia entry. The entry ends with;

love Tommy xxxx

Pretentious, schizophrenic, or just plain twat, I'm not entirely sure.
 
Angel4576 said:
Callers would often state their annoyance then quickly hang up, not wishing to cross swords with Boyd. Those who were brave enough be it to complain or to disagree with many of Boyd's proposals would frequently find themselves confronted with a strong argument.

Taken from Tommy's wikipedia entry. The entry ends with;

love Tommy xxxx

Pretentious, schizophrenic, or just plain twat, I'm not entirely sure.

:guffaw: :guffaw: :guffaw:
 
Outpost4 said: Outstanding call, Christopher Pike. That radio call in show is on right now. This is all beginning to make sense. Some fanboy of Tommy Boyd's is listening to the radio right now and typing us with the reptilian part of his brain that still works.
Sure thing. He does this kind of thing quite a lot. Bating Trekkies and reeling 'em in. You can bet only those who play the game by his rules will get a hearing. In other words, a show trial with the verdict already set in stone.

Live and let live, I say. You don't like Star Trek, that's fine and dandy. There's no law that says you have to... unlike following a sport like a religion it seems. I mean, anyone ever hear of a fan becoming a frenzied hooligan when the show doesn't end the way they expect?

Even if there's a grain of truth in these right wing theories. So what? Popular media is made up of successes with serious flaws. Ian Fleming, creator of James Bond was homophobic. Does watching old Tom and Jerry cartoons, where you only ever saw that stereotypical black maid's legs make you a racist? What about Disney from that period?

Can we level an agenda at the BBC with Doctor Who, for taking 43 years to allow a companion with an ethnic background? I'm sure we can all read too much into TV and film. It depends how unhinged the person is who's watching. For me it's just entertainment and an occasional escape from real life. End of story.
 
ChristopherPike said:
Outpost4 said: Outstanding call, Christopher Pike. That radio call in show is on right now. This is all beginning to make sense. Some fanboy of Tommy Boyd's is listening to the radio right now and typing us with the reptilian part of his brain that still works.
Sure thing. He does this kind of thing quite a lot. Bating Trekkies and reeling 'em in. You can bet only those who play the game by his rules will get a hearing. In other words, a show trial with the verdict already set in stone.
Thanks for the explantion. I don't mind being pranked. That forgives a lot of sins in my book, but not quite enough in this case. As an American, I rarely get a chance to use my favorite English put-down, so let me now.

Tommy Boyd is a wanker.
 
tommy_boyd said:
Hi. This is for fans of the early Star Treks. I'm a British journalist researching a story about how Star Trek began. The story goes something like this: the studio would only fund the project if the creators could write it as a thinly disguised propaganda tool for the sponsor's extremist right wing views. Basically, Star Trek doesn't come out looking clean. Sounds crazy, but there's a stack of evidence, maybe you could help take the other side of the debate?

Unfortuantely, I came to this party a little late...

I fail to see what it was about star trek that made it seem like right wing propaganda. If anything ST was and remains very left leaning stuff.

This is right up there with the idea that the "smurfs" is communist propaganda meant to indoctrinate young children. :wtf:
 
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