Any piece of music would have done, as long as it was noisy... and disturbing.
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Any piece of music would have done, as long as it was noisy... and disturbing.
Exactly, and the peice of rock around Uhura's neck did not need a Memory Alpha consultation. Anything not native to that area of space would have worked, especially something from either Earth ( a real planet with real minerals ) or Vulcan ( a fictional place, so the writers can call it whatever they want and it will pass as a Vulcan name.. Surakite or something lol).
That reminds me when Sherlock Holmes would say something like "That dirt on your sleeve can only come from that street in London..."
I mean how often does that happen, when a type of dirt comes from only ONE street in an entire city?
Thank you! I totally missed that.
I live in London the dirt in Hackney is so different from the dirt in Knightsbridge.....one is stepped on by the rich the other by the not so rich...That reminds me when Sherlock Holmes would say something like "That dirt on your sleeve can only come from that street in London..."
I mean how often does that happen, when a type of dirt comes from only ONE street in an entire city?
I live in London the dirt in Hackney is so different from the dirt in Knightsbridge.....one is stepped on by the rich the other by the not so rich...
I think the necklace thing was also a pretext to let the memory alpha guys participate in some way and a 'thank' them for their dedication. Memory alpha creates articles about canon facts, the cool thing now is that they have a canon information that was created by them. This special thing for the characters that was pivotal for the plot was created by them.
If they ever officially release a replica of the thing, so guys can gift it to their girlfriends (and replicate the joke lol 'this Valentine day give her a radioactive tracking device'
) , they are the ones who named it! How cool is that?
If they ever officially release a replica of the thing, so guys can gift it to their girlfriends (and replicate the joke lol 'this Valentine day give her a radioactive tracking device'
) , they are the ones who named it! How cool is that?I think the necklace thing was also a pretext to let the memory alpha guys participate in some way and a 'thank' them for their dedication. Memory alpha creates articles about canon facts, the cool thing now is that they have a canon information that was created by them. This special thing for the characters that was pivotal for the plot was created by them.
If they ever officially release a replica of the thing, so guys can gift it to their girlfriends (and replicate the joke lol 'this Valentine day give her a radioactive tracking device'
Yes, it was a nice tribute. I also liked the photo of the old crew at the end.
BTW, you could give your girlfriend a piece of rhodium, that is the most expensive non poisonous metal that exists.
I think the necklace thing was also a pretext to let the memory alpha guys participate in some way and a 'thank' them for their dedication. Memory alpha creates articles about canon facts, the cool thing now is that they have a canon information that was created by them. This special thing for the characters that was pivotal for the plot was created by them.
If they ever officially release a replica of the thing, so guys can gift it to their girlfriends (and replicate the joke lol 'this Valentine day give her a radioactive tracking device'
Thanks, this makes more sense than they used MA cos they wanted to get something that was not even canon 'right' line of thinking. They wanted MA to create canon, I can go with that. So next time, if they want to put the necklace back in the script, future writers better get the material of the neck piece right, after all it is was essential to the plot of STB. I don't wanna hear no 'Uhura's dilithium necklace that saved our butts' line LOL.
Would be ironic if they don't make an article about the necklace, I didn't find one yet. I'd love to read all the extra details about its origin.
With Vulcan forever gone, the mineral as a natural thing is gone too now....adds even more poignancy to that gift (beside the fact it was his mother's) It's a tracking device because the mineral is rare now and because they are not on Vulcan. For Amanda it wasn't.
With Vulcan forever gone, the mineral as a natural thing is gone too now....adds even more poignancy to that gift (beside the fact it was his mother's) It's a tracking device because the mineral is rare now and because they are not on Vulcan. For Amanda it wasn't.
So if Uhura wants to have an illicit tryst with Keenser she better leave that thing in the bathroom lol
Nonetheless they could achieve that speed (see ep "Fallen Hero").
Like Zack Snyder.Kirk had mad skills, but he also needed to be supervised.
Nope
"Kirk: Two and a half years as Starfleet's chief of operations may have made me a little stale, but I'd hardly consider myself 'untried.'
Later -
Decker: "Sir, you haven't logged a single star hour in two and a half years. That plus your unfamiliarity with the Enterprise seriously jeopardizes this mission."
They promoted Kirk right off the Enterprise as soon as the ship returned; in the novelization it's said they whole reason Nogura did this was because Kirk had become something of an icon in Starfleet and they needed to get him the hell off the frontier and sit his ass behind an office somewhere so nothing could happen to him.
It's apparently not as bad as TMP, where he did FIVE years and then skipped like 7 ranks.
And in this case he wasn't even applying for CHIEF OF OPERATIONS, just commander of a frontier starbase.
Also, we know so little about Starfleet's rank structure that it's entirely possible that Commodore Paris would have still outranked him even if he got the promotion.
Commodores seem to manage starbases so in DS9 Sisko should have been promoted from Commander straight to Commodore. But accuracy with military ranks was not a priority with the writers. A cadet could run a ship if he was good enough..oops done already. Does anyone with naval/armed forces experience have a little laugh at the Starfleet structure when they watch the show or movies?
Commodore outranks a captain and that's all we really know (see also: Commodore Matt Decker). We also know that "fleet captain" is a thing but we don't know what THAT rank means either or where it stands in the chain of command.
I know a few that do, but those are the same people who've been telling me since at least 2001 that Starfleet isn't really a military organization and so it's kind of silly to expect it to act like one.
Actually it seems to resemble the private security contractors I used to work for in college. Military-esque rank structure and uniforms, even military-style weapons for special occasions... but they could be called a "military" in the same sense that a cash register could be called a "safe deposit box."
Yes, I was surprised to see ensign Kim give orders to lieutenants. Not too mention Neelix who vis a vis star fleet is nothing, order star fleet people regardless of rank. Maybe they're afraid the he'll spit in their soup otherwise....
That is a legitimate fear.Yes, I was surprised to see ensign Kim give orders to lieutenants. Not too mention Neelix who vis a vis star fleet is nothing, order star fleet people regardless of rank. Maybe they're afraid the he'll spit in their soup otherwise....
I always give people who prepare food and clean toilets the highest respect...Yes, I was surprised to see ensign Kim give orders to lieutenants. Not too mention Neelix who vis a vis star fleet is nothing, order star fleet people regardless of rank. Maybe they're afraid the he'll spit in their soup otherwise....
Well I suppose if you transferred a soldier from 1716 to 2016 he might argue the US Navy/US Army etc is not a military organisation either. The passage of time changes how organisations are operated.
No, it's more like taking a soldier from 1765 and showing him these guys:
And having their Lieutenant explain "We're not actually part of the military." Police departments weren't even a "thing" back then, but if said soldier asks "So you're militia? Or constabularies?" the SWAT team commander will say "Kinda both."
In this case it's similar. Starfleet's modeled after NASA, not the navy. That they have a navy-style rank structure at all is probably the result of NASA adopting a similar structure for space missions with larger crews (20 to 30 on the old DY-500 class ships?) and not wanting to confuse everyone with a never-ending cascade of "Senior Mission Specialist, Junior Mission Specialist, Mission Specialist 3rd class) etc.
True as that is, it doesn't necessarily change WHAT THEY ARE. Military discipline serves a distinct purpose that Starfleet doesn't overtly emphasize: the heightened importance of obedience to the chain of command AND the maintained supremacy of officers over noncoms regardless of the latter's (frequently) superior experience and capability. To a certain extent, the distinction between officers and noncoms is a military tradition that stems from the participation of political and economic nobility in the military and the assumption that nobles should be supreme even when they have no idea what the fuck they're doing.
Starfleet seems to have a concept of nobility, but not a traditional or enforced one. Anyone who "enlists" becomes an officer and is expected to undergo rigorous training to become an expert in his or her field; you don't see anyone on starships who takes 3 months of basic and then gets assigned to mop the baffle plates in engineering.
Think of it another way: every starship is basically a national laboratory tossed into space with a warp engine attached to it. The only people on the ship who need to know anything about combat or vessel operations are the Command Track officers; the operations people (redshirts) know how to run equipment and systems and keep the ship running, but don't neccesarily need to know anything about military tactics, maneuvers. And there's always the blue shirts, who are primarily scientists, doctors and researchers and don't need to know anything except lab equipment and sensors.
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