Prime-Kirk was still a Captain in 2270 and an Admiral in 2273. That's also in just 3 years!
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Prime-Kirk was still a Captain in 2270 and an Admiral in 2273. That's also in just 3 years!
It would make sense for Enterprise to be the first five year mission ship, it is bad strategy to have your defense fleet out of Federation space for five years and also bad for recruitment if it was the norm. But most humanoids are long lived in the Federation universe so maybe five years of your life when you can live decades past 100 is like six months tour of duty for us.
Where do you get that from? Surely not from the last TOS episode that was about ten years before TMP.
Prime Kirk had more than three years as a Captain under his belt before he was promoted to the Admiralty
Two and a half years since he had been in space according to TMP. Add to the fact he specifically states his "five years out there", and you have your answer. It had been two and a half years between the end of TOS and TMP.
The in-universe time frame is different.
So does Abrams Kirk. Took command in 2258, Beyond takes place in 2263. So, roughly five years.
Well, it seems Kirk didn't take care of himself because he looked a lot older than in TOS. What did he do to himself?
While a decade passed between the last episode's filming and the release of TMP, "in-universe", the elapsed time was between 2.5 and 4.5 years from the last episode to TMP. If, as is most commonly done, you take the last episode as at the end of three years into the five year mission, then two more years of that mission elapsed (some of which was in TAS), the ship returned home, refit began and TMP picks up 2.5 years from coming home (so 4.5 years from last episode of TOS). Some people view TOS/TAS as the complete 5 year mission (just not all shown on screen), so then TMP is 2.5 years from TAS. Others view TOS episodes as the complete 5 year mission (presented over three years), so TMP is 2.5 years from last episode of TOS. However one chooses to view it, the "in-universe" gap between TOS(TAS or not) and TMP is well under the 10 years in real life. The look of the actors in TMP barely lets this gap skate by, so there was a major time jump between TMP and TWOK, to bring the real life and "in-universe" gaps more into line.
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I see. I never realized that. Thanks for the info.
Catching up with Shohreh Aghdashloo
http://www.startrek.com/article/beyonds-commodore-paris-shohreh-aghdashloo
http://www.startrek.com/article/beyonds-commodore-paris-shohreh-aghdashloo
Like I said… Prime-Kirk started his five-year mission as Captain of the Enterprise in 2265 (TOS). He ended his five-year mission still as a Captain sometime in 2270 (TOS/TAS). Two and a half years later, in 2273 (TMP), he was already a Rear Admiral!
Any Admiral with less merit than a baby deserves to lose the position. As I said, seniority and an inflexible, rigid policy about moving one rank at a time is no way to encourage the best use of resources and talent. It holds back progress and it holds back people from doing what they could sooner do best, or better than others. I think the Federation or Starfleet figured that out a long time ago.
Actually they made it sound like he was promoted right when he got back from the 5 year mission, though strangely enough the Enterprise didn't start its refit until a year after that.
Didn't Pike jump from Captain to Admiral at the end of ST'09? Nobody noticed that, did they? Everyone was too distracted by Lieutenant-Cadet Kirk's jump to captain.
I don't know how long it should take but the guy saved Earth, stopped a Starfleet Admiral from starting a war with the Klingons and then gave his life (which he got back but didn't know that going in) to save his ship and crew. If it were up to me he'd be the President of the Federation.
That alien design is so cool. Very well done.
Well, now they'll complain about since you pointed it out. Thanks
Pike had years of experience as a Captain, and had Marcus as a buddy....RHIP
Spock also saved Earth and so did the rest of the Enterprise crew. Make them all Admirals! Kirk was going to follow Marcus orders to kill Harrison-Khan it was Spock that reminded him of the rule of law. Kirk was in revenge mode.
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