Spoilers STAR TREK BEYOND
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The mineral in the necklace...
http://www.wga.org/writers-room/fea...016/star-trek-beyond-simon-pegg-and-doug-jung
Kirk was captain of the ship though, quarterbacks get all the glory.
Not everyone wants to be an admiral, you know.
True they might want to be Head of the Klingon council instead
Indeed. Or a captain. I'm sure I remember Prime Spock saying as such in the original series (Galileo Seven maybe?).
And yet the USS Franklin was a warp 4 ship...LOL
'God-emperor' sounds better anyway.
I always liked his comment from TWOK: You proceed from a false assumption. I am a Vulcan. I have no ego to bruise.
To Spock, being a captain is a matter of doing his job, not a reward or an ambition to strive towards.
I wonder if the writers made Spock less ambitious to appease Shatner's ego? Reboot Spock seems to have no qualms about being a Captain (ST09)
I am pretty sure that mirror spock said it, as the Captain was the prime target of all the ambitious crew members. Being second in command seemed like a much safer position.
Well, one of the privileges of being a Trek writer is ignoring canon when you choose too, and Pegg rightly understood that the Warp capabilities of the Franklin didn't mean all that much.
Nah it was TWOK when Kirk took command of the Enterprise. He never enouraged promotions for his senior crew, egotistical prick.
Neither does a fictional mineral for a peice of costume jewelry. He could have made something up, called it Peggaxite or something.
Kirk stole Enterprise from its rightful captain in TMP.
I would wager that the Spock Girlfriend Tracking Device was a far more important plot device than a snippet of throw away dialogue.
Thus the professional writers efforts to "get it right."
Like Bones said in TMP he was determined to get her back.
But there is nothing to 'get right', the tracking device could be made from anything native to Earth, Vulcan or any other Federation planet. It belonged to his mother, his father could have bought it for her or she bought it herself. It could be made from real life Earth elements or a madeup name from the writers' imagination. They did not need to consult Memory Alpha for that. It is not as if it was canon that Spock gave Uhura a peice of rock from ST09 or even in the TOS universe, however it is canon that a warp 5 ship was the first to leave Earth and explore the galaxy not warp 4. And since they mentioned the Xindi/MACOs and other ENT aspects they screwed up there. What if the script had mentioned 'Captain Tucker' being the first NX01 captain as a throwaway line would that be unimportant?
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But as Trip said, it was warp 5 on paper. In reality, the engines were overheating when they got to that speed.
Here's my point. The GTD was IMPORTANT TO THE PLOT.... in fact that little trinket was the major hinge for the entire final act. So if I am a writer and I want a little trinket like that to be SO important, I will consider it important for the details surrounding it to fit and be a solid whole (right mineral, rare mineral, only known to the man who gave the trinket to Uhura, allows Spock to provide a real solution to the whole "how do we rescue the crew" conundrum) and therefore I will rely on some awesome nerds to hook me up while I pound through a feature length script in three days.
I WON'T give two poops about a throw-away line that a TINY minority fans will attempt view as portraying an incredibly flexible Trek "canon" - which I can change at will anyway.
I WON'T give two poops about a throw-away line that a TINY minority fans will attempt view as portraying an incredibly flexible Trek "canon" - which I can change at will anyway.
How the bees were destroyed was also important to the plot, did the writers feel the needs to consult fans for the name of an appropriate song? Of course not! They could have named that peice of rock whatever they hell they wanted to and still have the same plot. It could have been a diamond, ruby, emerald or a peice of Vulcan coal with some radioactive element, it would still be a GTD.
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