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slash romance between leads that don't really need to be hooked up (Spock/Uhura)

Look, if Scotty didn't mind his ex-girlfriend hooking up with Spock, then -- . Oh, wait. Other universe. And at a later time. My bad.

In some ways, Uhura could take on the role Amanda had in TOS and the movies, she can gently but firmly remind Spock that he is half human, he has feelings he can and should deal with, and the human half of him is as valid and important to who he is as his Vulcan half. It won't go away if he ignores it, and his feelings can't be denied and therefore made irrelevant. He must live with it and make it useful. I think having heard it being called a "handicap" by the head of the Vulcan Academy would probably accelerate him in that direction, too. To deny his human half's positive capabilities or say realizing them makes him a less capable person would be essentially admitting it is a handicap. This Spock has realized far sooner than Spock Prime did that his human half may be a unique gift, and Uhura is there as a reminder of that.
 
Titillation is common across all forms of entertainment and especially Star Trek. Not really a fanfic thing. The Spock Uhura romance is a carry over from the previous film. Star Trek loves it's gratuitous cameos ( see any appearance by Chapel or Rand)

Especially in the TOS films. Rand's career seemed to take her around the Fleet quite a bit.

Titillation has been a part of Trek's history. Abrams was just the latest "offender" ;)
 
There is part of me that is fearful that Paramount has taken the vocal minorities criticism of Into Darkness to heart. That they will fall back to portraying these characters the way they were in the 60's.
 
There is part of me that is fearful that Paramount has taken the vocal minorities criticism of Into Darkness to heart. That they will fall back to portraying these characters the way they were in the 60's.

That would be magnificent
 
There is part of me that is fearful that Paramount has taken the vocal minorities criticism of Into Darkness to heart. That they will fall back to portraying these characters the way they were in the 60's.
It happened with ID based upon criticisms that 09 was "too Star Wars" or some thing a long those lines.

I see it as a possibility, however ill-conceived.

There is part of me that is fearful that Paramount has taken the vocal minorities criticism of Into Darkness to heart. That they will fall back to portraying these characters the way they were in the 60's.

That would be magnificent

It would be a train wreck of epic proportions.

You're both right: it will be a magnificent train wreck of epic proportions ;)
 
Spock/Uhura is SHIP. Not SLASH.
Actually, it's not even ship, because it's canon (or NuCanon).

Sounds like they ditching anything STID related. (maybe no reference to anything STID related as TWOK/TMP, TUC/TFF)
[Re ditching 0718] I talked earlier about the problem that too many aliens on board might detract from Spock's other-ness - possibly this is related to that? Also, this new movie is about encountering strange new species, so also having exotics on the crew might detract from the contrast of that encounter.
 
Spock/Uhura is SHIP. Not SLASH.
Actually, it's not even ship, because it's canon (or NuCanon).

Sounds like they ditching anything STID related. (maybe no reference to anything STID related as TWOK/TMP, TUC/TFF)
[Re ditching 0718] I talked earlier about the problem that too many aliens on board might detract from Spock's other-ness - possibly this is related to that? Also, this new movie is about encountering strange new species, so also having exotics on the crew might detract from the contrast of that encounter.

Well, one way of going about that is by making his Vulcan-ness become more unique, given that the Vulcan species is so rare. So, now, in this universe, aliens are not rare on Starfleet vessels, but Vulcans are due to the loss of Vulcan.

One way of looking at it :)
 
There is part of me that is fearful that Paramount has taken the vocal minorities criticism of Into Darkness to heart. That they will fall back to portraying these characters the way they were in the 60's.
It happened with ID based upon criticisms that 09 was "too Star Wars" or some thing a long those lines.

I see it as a possibility, however ill-conceived.

That would be magnificent

It would be a train wreck of epic proportions.

You're both right: it will be a magnificent train wreck of epic proportions ;)

To: Simon Pegg, Doug Jung
From: Paramount
Re: Spock and Uhura

Gentlemen:
Please be advised that in this movie, there are only three acceptable ways for Mr. Spock to address Lt. Uhura. He may call her Lt., or Lt. Uhura, or Miss Uhura. In return, Miss Uhura may only address her superior officer as Mr. Spock or Commander Spock. Their relationship in their off-hours may be cordial but not familiar. Further, they are not to be seen alone together. If they are in a social setting it must be with other crewmembers like in a recreation room. If Spock is playing his Vulcan lyre, Miss Uhura may sing along, but he must not show that he is enjoying her company.

We think you will understand when we say we want less, "The women!" Spock, and more inscrutable Spock, and we need more "Hailing frequencies open, sir," Uhura and less the Uhura from "Mirror Mirror".

Also, please be sure that Miss Uhura is never the hero in a situation if it can be written for Captain Kirk, or at least Mr. Spock. That is the order of things. Even making it a medical situation for McCoy to stand out in is better.

On some unrelated matters, first, please limit Dr. McCoy to two, "I'm a doctor, not a [fill in the blank]" exclamations. Second, bear in mind the budget allows for only three ripped captain's tunics. Lastly, Mr. Pegg, please try to make Scotty sound less Scottish and more like Scotty is supposed to sound, whatever that accent was.

Thank you in advance for your kind regards to these matters.

Paramount
 
There is part of me that is fearful that Paramount has taken the vocal minorities criticism of Into Darkness to heart. That they will fall back to portraying these characters the way they were in the 60's.
It happened with ID based upon criticisms that 09 was "too Star Wars" or some thing a long those lines.

I see it as a possibility, however ill-conceived.

It would be a train wreck of epic proportions.

You're both right: it will be a magnificent train wreck of epic proportions ;)

To: Simon Pegg, Doug Jung
From: Paramount
Re: Spock and Uhura

Gentlemen:
Please be advised that in this movie, there are only three acceptable ways for Mr. Spock to address Lt. Uhura. He may call her Lt., or Lt. Uhura, or Miss Uhura. In return, Miss Uhura may only address her superior officer as Mr. Spock or Commander Spock. Their relationship in their off-hours may be cordial but not familiar. Further, they are not to be seen alone together. If they are in a social setting it must be with other crewmembers like in a recreation room. If Spock is playing his Vulcan lyre, Miss Uhura may sing along, but he must not show that he is enjoying her company.

We think you will understand when we say we want less, "The women!" Spock, and more inscrutable Spock, and we need more "Hailing frequencies open, sir," Uhura and less the Uhura from "Mirror Mirror".

Also, please be sure that Miss Uhura is never the hero in a situation if it can be written for Captain Kirk, or at least Mr. Spock. That is the order of things. Even making it a medical situation for McCoy to stand out in is better.

On some unrelated matters, first, please limit Dr. McCoy to two, "I'm a doctor, not a [fill in the blank]" exclamations. Second, bear in mind the budget allows for only three ripped captain's tunics. Lastly, Mr. Pegg, please try to make Scotty sound less Scottish and more like Scotty is supposed to sound, whatever that accent was.

Thank you in advance for your kind regards to these matters.

Paramount

That whole thing is perfect, but my bolded part made me laugh out loud.

Well played. Can we post that to one of the Abrams-hate groups and let it circulate for a while?
 
[Re ditching 0718] I talked earlier about the problem that too many aliens on board might detract from Spock's other-ness - possibly this is related to that? Also, this new movie is about encountering strange new species, so also having exotics on the crew might detract from the contrast of that encounter.

Well, one way of going about that is by making his Vulcan-ness become more unique, given that the Vulcan species is so rare. So, now, in this universe, aliens are not rare on Starfleet vessels, but Vulcans are due to the loss of Vulcan.

The big twist in STB is that Vulcans are so rare and endangered that Spock was not permitted to go on the 5 year mission - that's just a hologram on the bridge. ;)
 
Just chiming in about the whole slash, ship etc etc
A 'ship' is the definition (and a verb too e.g., 'I ship this!') that is given, in fandom only, to both canon and not canon fictional romantic pairs. From that, you have the 'shippers' who are the fans of that pair and may make fanworks about them (fanfictions, fanarts, fanzines - in the tos era old days). Examples: spock/uhura, kirk/spock, spock/chapel and even kirk/uhura/spock or kirk/bones/spock.

They are called ships because it's the abbreviation of relationship and it's a pun with ship as boat e.g., 'I'm on board this ship' 'I sail this ship'= I support the thing)

Slash is a fandom term used to identify same sex ships and their fans (kirk/spock, kirk/bones, spock/bones).

So, for the writers and general fans Spock and Uhura are just a canon pair from the star trek reboot, it's a part of the story just like the other dynamics (e.g., friendships).
It's a ship in the fandom for those who like it, but it's not a slash ship.
Maybe the original poster who called it slash was having a freudian slip since slash fans always say that a spock/uhura relationship is "unnecessary" ..
(never mind the fact that any kind of relationship is unnecessary, then :confused:)



There is part of me that is fearful that Paramount has taken the vocal minorities criticism of Into Darkness to heart. That they will fall back to portraying these characters the way they were in the 60's.
It happened with ID based upon criticisms that 09 was "too Star Wars" or some thing a long those lines.

I see it as a possibility, however ill-conceived.

It would be a train wreck of epic proportions.

You're both right: it will be a magnificent train wreck of epic proportions ;)

To: Simon Pegg, Doug Jung
From: Paramount
Re: Spock and Uhura

Gentlemen:
Please be advised that in this movie, there are only three acceptable ways for Mr. Spock to address Lt. Uhura. He may call her Lt., or Lt. Uhura, or Miss Uhura. In return, Miss Uhura may only address her superior officer as Mr. Spock or Commander Spock. Their relationship in their off-hours may be cordial but not familiar. Further, they are not to be seen alone together. If they are in a social setting it must be with other crewmembers like in a recreation room. If Spock is playing his Vulcan lyre, Miss Uhura may sing along, but he must not show that he is enjoying her company.

We think you will understand when we say we want less, "The women!" Spock, and more inscrutable Spock, and we need more "Hailing frequencies open, sir," Uhura and less the Uhura from "Mirror Mirror".

Also, please be sure that Miss Uhura is never the hero in a situation if it can be written for Captain Kirk, or at least Mr. Spock. That is the order of things. Even making it a medical situation for McCoy to stand out in is better.

On some unrelated matters, first, please limit Dr. McCoy to two, "I'm a doctor, not a [fill in the blank]" exclamations. Second, bear in mind the budget allows for only three ripped captain's tunics. Lastly, Mr. Pegg, please try to make Scotty sound less Scottish and more like Scotty is supposed to sound, whatever that accent was.

Thank you in advance for your kind regards to these matters.

Paramount

Priceless :guffaw:
 
Just chiming in about the whole slash, ship etc etc
A 'ship' is the definition (and a verb too e.g., 'I ship this!') that is given, in fandom only, to both canon and not canon fictional romantic pairs. From that, you have the 'shippers' who are the fans of that pair and may make fanworks about them (fanfictions, fanarts, fanzines - in the tos era old days). Examples: spock/uhura, kirk/spock, spock/chapel and even kirk/uhura/spock or kirk/bones/spock.

They are called ships because it's the abbreviation of relationship and it's a pun with ship as boat e.g., 'I'm on board this ship' 'I sail this ship'= I support the thing)

Slash is a fandom term used to identify same sex ships and their fans (kirk/spock, kirk/bones, spock/bones).

So, for the writers and general fans Spock and Uhura are just a canon pair from the star trek reboot, it's a part of the story just like the other dynamics (e.g., friendships).
It's a ship in the fandom for those who like it, but it's not a slash ship.
Maybe the original poster who called it slash was having a freudian slip since slash fans always say that a spock/uhura relationship is "unnecessary" ..
(never mind the fact that any kind of relationship is unnecessary, then :confused:)
Just wondering- if the slash is not appropriate for a 'ship' what symbol is supposed to be used? A hyphen seems too sexual and an equals sign could imply something kinky, especially when used with an asterisk (whose asterisk depends on how open a mind they have)...
 
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