And here I was thinking this thread would finally answer the question of whether the Kelvin Timeline movies are Good or Not Good. Oh well! I guess we'll all just have to continue debating it until we die. 
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The production values are not what make the films good, in my opinion. Updated looks and expansive FX are expected in most contemporary filmmaking, especially in this tent pole era that we are currently living in.
What differentiates Star Trek from Fast and Furious is the characters and what they are going through.
You had one job, thread, one job!And here I was thinking this thread would finally answer the question of whether the Kelvin Timeline movies are Good or Not Good. Oh well! I guess we'll all just have to continue debating it until we die.
The recent Star Trek movies just aren't fresh. They look great, but there is nothing setting them apart from other summer blockbuster movies. There's no originality in them. I don't know what is needed to make them more profitable. I don't think they will ever be more profitable than Into Darkness. It needs a good story and a smaller budget and the acceptance Star Trek will never be the 750 - 1 billion Dollars franchise in my opinion.
Star-Trek-Beyond gets another month in China. A rare move. https://www.thebeijinger.com/blog/2...per-china-co-writer-simon-pegg-beamed-beijing
It won't break even in cinemas. Not even if it gets another year in China.
It's roughly close or just under to break- even. In Hollywood movie terms that's $10s of millions. It had to make $300 million + to build on to make a decent amount from secondary revenue.. Where the vast majority of films actually make profit. Currently beyond is the number 1 digital download on iTunes and number 4 bluray on Amazon.com one month before it's release, for example.
So the real question is.. Will this increase the China theater count, because it's very small now. There are no details about that yet. If it does, then it'll possibly add maybe $5 or $10 million to the China total. If not it'll be a negligible effect.
Beyond is actually over $337 million, they just don't update Beyond foreign as quickly now.
I chastised trekmovie.com a few days ago about their incomplete box office Roundup. However, their upper estimate of $360 million for Beyond seems unlikely.
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So the real question is.. Will this increase the China theater count, because it's very small now. There are no details about that yet. If it does, then it'll possibly add maybe $5 or $10 million to the China total. If not it'll be a negligible effect.
Beyond is actually over $337 million, they just don't update Beyond foreign as quickly now.
I chastised trekmovie.com a few days ago about their incomplete box office Roundup. However, their upper estimate of $360 million for Beyond seems unlikely.
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Why does it take being a "fan boy" to acknowledge if the movie breaks even? I think that somewhere in the $350 million range would put it in break even territory (based on the vague knowledge we have of Hollywood accounting). Making the rest of the post-theater run revenue, profit for the film. Whether Paramount and their financing partners will see this as enough of a sign to go with a fourth film, only they know.
I don't understand people that actively root for Star Trek to fail.
They need to evolve. Star Trek needs to evolve. That's the only way it will feel fresh and different.
Thankfully, I think Discovery will take a different approach and attempt to evolve Trek.
And you'll have the self-chosen few who deem themselves the protectors of "Gene's Vision", come rushing to piss on it as soon as possible. Just like you had a few grading Into Darkness an 'F', weeks before it opened.
That's a good point. Where did that $120 million go? There were like two trailers and a teaser, and...billboards?I can't believe marketing of this movie costed 120 millions
I'm sure there's more to marketing than billboards and trailers. What we see is only the tip of the iceberg.
Oh of course. I'm being a little facetious because I think the marketing for Star Trek Beyond didn't reflect its importance, this being the 50th anniversary and whatnot.
Wasn't there a bunch or tie-in marketing with model ships and stuff at fast food joints? That doesn't just happen. And surely you'd have to count all the standees and posters and stuff in theaters before release, and I'm sure there was other stuff that doesn't get mentioned.
And sushi. From what I hear the professional Star Trek filmmakers enjoy the sushi.
And sushi. From what I hear the professional Star Trek filmmakers enjoy the sushi.
I DIDN'T GET ANY STAR TREK SUSHI!!!And sushi. From what I hear the professional Star Trek filmmakers enjoy the sushi.
Same thing happened to Beyond.
And, honestly, I'm still waiting for Discovery to show me that it will be different.
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