Spoilers STAR TREK BEYOND
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Well of course, that is your opinion, and that's all it is. It looks good from every angle as the 360 degree demonstrates, and it is in fact sleeker than the previous Kelvin ship. That's my opinion. It doesn't really matter though, because I basically like all trek Starfleet ships, and they are mainly variations on a theme, in this case, they decided to modernize the TOS 1701 to a slightly closer degree and continue to use some elements of the refit.
I find it hilarious when people start listing things that should or shouldn't be on a starship, and start suggesting a nacelle might be 2 inches to high or a foot too far to the side, when they are all fictional technology anyway with no clear rules (or were abandoned years ago).
By far the MOST hilarious idea is that they would even think about replicating the 1986 E-A. Why? It's been done. It's a new creative team. The new design already looks more advanced than it does. Silly..that's just fanboy wishful thinking.
Here are some comparisons from the Trekyards video showing the similarities and differences:
The actual ship:
Sean Hargreaves version
I don't see whats 'hilarious' about expecting to see the refit design at the end of the film. With the amount of Easter eggs, in jokes and call backs in these three films I was fully expecting to see a refit enterprise at the end of beyond, or at least this team's interpretation of that design. Other than some of the curvy detailing around the neck and the saucer which I like i found the rest of the design rather clumsy looking. This is all based in one viewing in the theatre of course, so i need to see more of the ship to fully appraise it, but my initial feeling when I saw it was 'meh'.
There's just something about the 1979 model that has a timeless quality to it. Blinkered viewpoint maybe but I just can't imagine another design of enterprise topping it.
Quite true it'd have been the cherry on top of the movie, leaving the theatre would've been like 'ohmagodohmagod icantbelieveit!' Instead it was more.. 'was that the same design? meh'
The Enterprise-A is growing on me now I've seen HD caps and clips. But I still prefer the ST'09/ID/STB-until-it-crashes version of the ship. I suspect that's always going to be "my" Enterprise.
Ugh, I would have thought..how boring and ordinary. I had my fill of the design in the 80s. By the time STVI rolled around I was ready for something new on the big screen.
I have to agree. I think Sean's rationale was excellent, and the basic design is good, but the pylons look better in the CGI version. Ironically, the very first line drawing he made looks more like the final version.
I believe the Trekyards guys and Sean were going to continue tweaking the model for the next video and give people a better idea what his finished version of the A might have looked like if he had time to do finish up the final details.
I couldn't have imagined that this would end up behind "Legend of Tarzan" in Worldwide Box Office. Prior to release (after LOT has been released) I never thought that was at all possible. It will end up outside the top 20 Worldwide for 2016. In comparison, ST09 and STID were 13th and 14th respectively in their years of release.
Every time I want to get mad at the rest of the world (see Warcraft, ID2, etc) and their film choices I quickly realize that North America had the worst drop for STB.
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I guess the box office shows that the public's love affair with Star Trek is over. 
What? That can't be right, can it? Star Trek Beyond is below The Legend of Tarzan in the worldwide box office? But I thought Tarzan was a flop!
You should probably post it here also:
http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/pote...ternate-enterprise-a-look-like.279532/page-41
Edit: Nevermind. I posted it.
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The Legend of Tarzan is considered a flop or bomb on a budget of 180 million. Since Beyond is doing worse on the same budget...
How do we call that?
How do we call that?
Ah well back to being a nerd after a 7 year flirtation with coolnessI guess the box office shows that the public's love affair with Star Trek is over.
Depends what the other revenue streams look like, honestly. The box office gross is a diminishing part of the game.
That's easy!
Legend of Tarzan is a b.o. bomb with $356 million worldwide box office (with a $180 million budget).
Star Trek Beyond is a b.o. hit with $337 million worldwide box office (with a $185 million budget).
Just don't let actual facts and figures convince you otherwise!
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This is so disappointing to see Trek underperform like this. Both Doctor Who and James Bond recently celebrated their 50th anniversaries, and played up that they have a lot to celebrate. With Beyond, Paramount seemed ashamed of Trek's perception of being old, and didn't want to alienate potential patrons. Presumably because said patrons would be the need to familiarize themselves with previous Trek properties. Or, ya know, just focus on the reboot films. Sigh.
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