McCoy/Carol. Just sayin and nothing you say or do will make me think otherwise.
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McCoy/Carol. Just sayin and nothing you say or do will make me think otherwise.
Well, his score for The Incredibles is justthere is no doubt.
And you are right, the Jupiter Ascending OST is grand and in parts even playful, and Tomorrowland is fun too (though in parts it sounds a bit like it's about to break out into "Enterprising Young Men").
These works make the Jurassic World score sound even paler in comparison.
So, not all hope is lost, I guess.
Whoah! I didn't know hope had been lost...
I have always enjoyed Giacchiano's scores (especially Trek and didn't know he did Incredibles. I thoroughly enjoyed Lost World.
Glad he is back!
To get back to this real quick; I've just realized something that bugged me about the Jupiter Ascending score: it resembles the action sequences of the score for the live-action-film of Space-Battleship Yamato.
Not note for note of course, but have a listen to Jupiter's "I hate my life" and Yamato's "Fire wave motion gun"
thank you! I thought I was the only one noticing the sparks between them
well, in the first movie the trailers (and in some part the movie too) almost made you think there would be something between Kirk and Uhura and then she actually was with Spock.
So, wouldn't surprise me that much if stid did the same with Kirk/Carol and then she ended up with McCoy in trek3. In the star trek app when I got the poll about the fav couple from stid there were S/U, Kirk/Carol and Carol/McCoy (though, at this point, they could've put Kirk/Uhura too. If you're including the crackships - meaning those that are not actually a couple in the source material - it wouldn't be more far fetched to compared to the last two tbh)
Would be a funny 'plot twist' if in this reality 'Kirk the ladies man' remains single while Spock and McCoy are the ones with a girlfriend
I wouldn't put that past Orci&Co, but then they changed the creative team and I guess that will affect whatever 'plan' they had for Carol, if any.
Pretty sure that was an intentional misdirect.
Right. At this point, there's no reason to expect Carol to appear in Beyond at all. I'm not sure how widespread the perception is that STID's reuse of elements from TWOK was a misfire, but the filmmakers do seem to be distancing themselves from the "loose-remake" approach in favor of a more original story.
indeed
('new Spock' small pic above them makes this strangely amusing to me)
I just found this, from a recent interview by Eve
...vague but diplomatic. At the moment she's in uk with her husband and thus she is not in Canada with the rest of cast, but I guess we won't know if she makes an appearance in the movie until we watch it (or when they release the promotional material)
In terms of nods to TWOK, I agree that she probably was part of that but at the same time I feel they changed her character so much (including her job, that maybe is too specific to stid though) that she could have been called with another name and it wouldn't make any difference. Writing her out of the sequel would still feel like an involuntary nod to TWOK since, well, that's what happened to prime Carol as well. If they want to be original keeping her as part of the crew is surely 'new' compared to what happened in the other reality.
I think that if Scotty can keep Keenser even though he says no lines and makes no important contribution to the plot, then it's reasonable to think they can find a way to keep Carol on the ship too. One more female officer (with lines) in a cast where Uhura is basically the smurfette wouldn't hurt.
Well, they changed her from a civilian scientist to a Starfleet scientist. Not a huge difference.
I don't know if they'd see it that way. If the desire overall is to distance themselves from past-continuity nods and tell a more original story, then I'd expect them to leave her out altogether.
If they wanted to, sure. But if Eve herself hasn't heard anything by this point about participating, then I'd say it's wishful thinking. I certainly do hope they include more female crew, but it won't necessarily be her.
she's british, she's still a scientist but her skills are in advanced weaponry rather than.. well, cooking planets
and making her part of the crew like they did in the end is a big change enough since original Carol kept David away from Kirk precisely because she didn't want to be part of Kirk's world (and didn't want David to be part of that either) which includes his workplace.
but pretending stid didn't happen (since it's canon that her character is officially part of the crew by the end of the last movie) means they also distance themselves from the continuity of this story too.
Though, I want to hope that if she really is not in the movie they will address that (hopefully not the way they did with Chapel)
exactly, if they wanted.
It doesn't really seem to be that big of a group going on about it.
she's british, she's still a scientist but her skills are in advanced weaponry rather than.. well, cooking planets
Rather, she presented herself as Doctor Carol Wallace, an expert in advanced weaponry, in order to investigate her father's secret project. Since she lied about her name, it's possible she lied about her specialty as well.
Granted. I suppose you have a point that the character didn't need to be Carol Marcus any more than "John Harrison" needed to be Khan.
Where do you get that from? I never said anything about pretending it didn't happen. I just said they'd want to avoid reminding people of it by mentioning its elements too overtly or emulating its reuse of familiar characters and concepts. Like the way TWOK didn't mention any specific plot elements from TMP, and TUC didn't mention any from TFF.
And yes, of course Carol joined the crew at the end of the movie, but crew members come and go. It's not like Beyond will be picking up five minutes after STID ended. The press release we got a while back suggested that it takes place "deep in the five-year mission," suggesting that it's probably been a couple of years since STID -- plenty of time for crew replacements to happen. Look how much the Enterprise crew changed in the first couple of seasons of TOS alone -- Rand giving way to a string of one-time yeomen, Farrell giving way to Riley and various other navigators before Chekov eventually showed up, etc. If we pick up after a gap of a year or two and Carol has been reassigned elsewhere, there would be nothing the least bit odd about that.
Considering she was there to specifically investigate the torpedoes thats doubtful.
Which would make sense if Into Darkness sucked ass, it really didn't otherwise there wouldn't be a Star Trek Beyond.
Dude, it's Star Trek. It's like Bond, or Godzilla, or Batman, there'll always be a next movie, no matter how poorly received the previous one was.
A movie can be reasonably successful yet still draw criticism for certain elements. And in that case, it's only reasonable for the makers of the next movie to go "Okay, those aspects didn't go over well, so let's try not to repeat them next time."
But I don't remember a whole lot of criticism about Alice Eve outside of the underwear scene.
It's more than that, actually. Being Admiral Marcus' daughter -- and having access to "every project he oversaw" -- implicitly means that Carol Marcus was active in Section Thirty One. Which means that in the Abramsverse, she has at least SOME background in espionage and counter-intelligence (kind of obvious, actually, since she managed to forge her transfer orders to get onto the Enterprise and is even capable of accessing Section Thirty One's inventory records without permission).
she's british, she's still a scientist but her skills are in advanced weaponry rather than.. well, cooking planets
and making her part of the crew like they did in the end is a big change enough since original Carol kept David away from Kirk precisely because she didn't want to be part of Kirk's world (and didn't want David to be part of that either) which includes his workplace.
Now, on the one hand you could make the case that this was true in the prime universe as well, which might explain why she no longer works for Starfleet and yet seems apt to defend them when David accuses them of creeping militarism. Likewise, it also explains something we've wondered about Kirk/Carol for years: how come we never heard of her before? It could be we DID meet Carol in TOS but simply didn't recognize her because she was using an alias.
^ Why would you think that Carol was active in Section 31? There's no evidence of that.
Just because Admiral Marcus was in S31 doesn't mean Carol was. I don't see any connection between the two. They didn't serve together or anything like that.
Just because Admiral Marcus was in S31 doesn't mean Carol was. I don't see any connection between the two. They didn't serve together or anything like that.
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Going back to that charity video of the cast, anyone else notice that Pine and Quinto are back to their slender ST'09 physiques? Or am I the only one who noticed that they beefed up for Into Darkness?
Going back to that charity video of the cast, anyone else notice that Pine and Quinto are back to their slender ST'09 physiques? Or am I the only one who noticed that they beefed up for Into Darkness?
Well, there is precedent for physique fluctuations in Kirk.
Going back to that charity video of the cast, anyone else notice that Pine and Quinto are back to their slender ST'09 physiques? Or am I the only one who noticed that they beefed up for Into Darkness?
Calories are scarcer on the final frontier.
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