STAR TREK 4 BACK ON! Noah Hawley to write and direct
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My three kids do. They are aware of Trek in all its various forms. I raised them right.
My three kids do. They are aware of Trek in all its various forms. I raised them right.
My 4 year old daughter, who already loves Star Wars has just started TOS, she's getting raised the same.
I think my point stands though. The younger generation I think are not tuned into Trek in many forms, especially a relatively niche show like DS9.
My wife, brother and sister do.
DS9 completed its saga when the series ended. I need nothing more. Well, it would be nice to know if Ben visited Jake once in a while, but otherwise, meh. It was a fine and satisfying conclusion.
I wouldn't mind a Pike era film, but then we'd have the continuity folks complaining about the advanced tech and the uniforms being wrong and whatnot. There's actually something cool about that era being shadowy.
I wouldn't mind a Pike era film, but then we'd have the continuity folks complaining about the advanced tech and the uniforms being wrong and whatnot. There's actually something cool about that era being shadowy.
I guess it would depend on the contents for me. If its just more nostalgia pandering like Discovery, I would probably pass on it unless it got really good word of mouth.
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Maybe close family of trek fans doesn't really represent the wider general audience very well
Lower budgets meant that TWOK was scaled down considerably from what was initially envisioned, and came across as an excellent character piece on the relationship between Kirk and his friends and Kirk and his enemies.
The lower budget also meant that the sets built for TMP had to be reused, costuming had to become extremely creative, and some filmmaking choices had to be scaled back. It worked.
STIII and STVI are both recognized as excellent, although unsubtle, films in their own right, but both suffer a bit from 'Sequel-itis'.
A bit more flexibility in the budget could have allowed those films to expand beyond just "sequels".
OTOH, the Transformers movies are widely considered to be great popcorn flicks but have little lasting power; raking in enough to make the franchise wildly successful, but hardly standout.
Ditto for Terminator, at least up until this year.
Going back to Trek, ST09 was a great action adventure movie with plotholes you could drive a shuttlecraft through. Having an unlimited budget isn't necessarily a good thing, but neither is having a TV-movie budget (cf:Generations).
Tl:dr, reigning in costs and keeping something more balanced and paced is good, but take away too much money and you're left with a glorified TV episode.
Don't do that if you don't want a repeat of Generations.
Or Final Frontier.
Or Nemesis. Seriously, that dune buggy chase looked like something from a low-budget 1970s drive-in movie.
Fair enough, but I thought the space station shots from Star Trek Beyond were amazing eye candy that added nothing to the plot. Cut those out and the budget would have been more manageable.
There is a balance to be struck here, you don't want this film to look like a cheap TV film, but just throwing money on the screen with MCU level budgets was not working either, there is a middle ground here.
Also there is an interesting Forbes article about this movie's prospects:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottm...-questions-facing-paramounts-star-trek-4/amp/
I think the new film will need to focus less on special effects and more on plot and characters.
The closest you're going to get -- maybe -- is if Alex Kurtzman decides to do a follow-up to DS9 on the TV end. And that's a huge maybe. And even if they did, it's not going to be to your tastes. Rick Berman style Star Trek isn't coming back.
They'll stick with the Kelvin Films as long as they can. Then, after that, they'll probably either reboot again or they'll move on to a Kelvin version of TNG. I think the "Prime" Timeline will only be reserved for TV from this point on.
Ok. Cool story bro.
but his double negative is on point. no one normal doesn't want this shit.
well about the article, mostly right, and has been said alot on this particular thread..
1. Does the audinece Want another Kelvin-verse movie? not really, but Possible if its good..
2. Is paramount doing this becuase they have much of nothing in the franchise wars? Yep!
I will say this, the 09 movie took Star trek out of the "Very Nerd" category and gave it some mainstream appeal, and we can show our ST love a little more openly.. so there is that
1. Does the audinece Want another Kelvin-verse movie? not really, but Possible if its good..
2. Is paramount doing this becuase they have much of nothing in the franchise wars? Yep!
I will say this, the 09 movie took Star trek out of the "Very Nerd" category and gave it some mainstream appeal, and we can show our ST love a little more openly.. so there is that
I half expected a splice with Vanishing Point at that moment. (Which would have increased the awesome quotient considerably—confusion notwithstanding)
Eh, my wife found DS9 on her own after watching ST 09, so...maybe.Maybe close family of trek fans doesn't really represent the wider general audience very well
Also, you didn't specify which under 30 years old
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