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STAR TREK 4 BACK ON! Noah Hawley to write and direct

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I hope the new Trek film will be something really new. New crew, new ship, new adventures... It's been 10 years since the first Kelvin movie. It's old now.
 
Uhm no. I don't know what the legion guy wants to do, but it makes no sense for me that Tarantino would be the one making a sequel when he admits he doesn't get or care about the basic stuff in the source material (= canon) of kelvin trek and what makes it....kelvin trek. ^ That's as illogical as asking a football player to play a tennis game. It would make more sense for Tarantino, if anything, to make his own spin off not really linked to either trek.
They could easily make QTs Trek to fit in with kelvinverse, if it hasn't already
 
They could easily make QTs Trek to fit in with kelvinverse, if it hasn't already
I think in a normal universe, it's the director who should be a good fit for the thing they are working for, thus adapt himself, not the other way around.

You guys read the script? Is it such an amazing story they can't do better? Doubtful. From his words, we only know it's 'pulp fuction and gangsters in space' . And that he doesn't get the alternate reality thing. Neither information is promising nor explains a fixation for him in particular.
If the plot is that rumored one (which I doubt), it frankly sounds like a lame, unoriginal, disaster.

I don't even think he really wants to do it. He keeps giving different answers and it feels like it's more like a joke/teasing by both him and Paramount to make us talk, to be honest. The articles/comments are always the same music, nothing has changed and there is no real news or announcement.
 
I think in a normal universe, it's the director who should be a good fit for the thing they are working for, thus adapt himself, not the other way around.
Agreed which is why Abrams got so much push back and why I push back against Tarantino. Everyone wants to kowtow to Tarantino without bother to ask if it is a good fit.

Sorry, I don't believe any director should get carte blanche for any project.
 
We have the box office failures of Bumblebee,Terminator and Gemini Man to get the lead out of their pants to make this happen. Hawley seems to have a very vivid imagination so I am expecting something like a even better version of The Motion Picture. Anthing from a visit by Q to a visit to Talos could be possible. Jason

Let's keep Q, and the Borg, in the Next Generation universe please!
 
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http://blog.trekcore.com/2020/01/noah-hawley-has-own-take-on-star-trek-film/
(also doesn't sound like its as ahead as the Tarantino project was/is?)

Update2: it will probably feature a NEW CAST
"To call it Star Trek IV is kind of a misnomer. I have my own take on the franchise as a life-long fan," Hawley told The Hollywood Reporter podcast TV’s Top 5, in an interview set to bow in April.
Asked if the film would involve a new cast, he responded, "Yeah, I think so. Yeah."
Pressed if anyone from the cast last seen in 2016's Star Trek Beyond would return, Hawley added, "It's early days. I don't know. But new characters often involve new cast."
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/noah-hawley-star-trek-movie-include-new-cast-1268499
 
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hawley's being super diplomatic and cagey but it's pretty clear this isn't actually a kelvin timeline film.
Sounds like the Kelvin cast is done unless the Tarantino movie happens (with some other director)
 
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Seeing how different and out-of-context Hawley's version of Charles Xavier was in Legion, I'm curious what his idea of a rererebooted Star Trek would be.

Sad it's not the Kelvin guys though.
 
So glad we'll be getting something new and fresh. The Kelvin timeline is old. This movie will see the light of day in 2022 at the earliest. By that time Star Trek (2009) is 13 (!) years old. No more Spock and Kirk or Enterprise for the movies. New characters, new ships, aliens etc. Less action, more talking.
 
So glad we'll be getting something new and fresh. The Kelvin timeline is old. This movie will see the light of day in 2022 at the earliest. By that time Star Trek (2009) is 13 (!) years old. No more Spock and Kirk or Enterprise for the movies. New characters, new ships, aliens etc. Less action, more talking.

As much as I'd love to see another movie with the Kelvin cast, I fear you are correct and I'm forced to agree. I just don't see how they can make bank any more, they squandered their opportunity to do so years ago, and I get the feeling another expensive Kelvin movie at this point will go the same way as X-Men Dark Phoenix - another franchise that's squandered the good will of it's audience.
 
As much as I'd love to see another movie with the Kelvin cast, I fear you are correct and I'm forced to agree. I just don't see how they can make bank any more, they squandered their opportunity to do so years ago, and I get the feeling another expensive Kelvin movie at this point will go the same way as X-Men Dark Phoenix - another franchise that's squandered the good will of it's audience.
Dark Phoenix mustve been a warning to Paramount (or any studio) continuing with a cast of a huge franchise when the last entry underperformed/made little impact with audiences (could totally see the Hemsworth ST4 having done XDP box office)

and re QT Trek if the rumours were to be believed (Generations meets Avengers)..itd be a 90! year old Shatner (unless it would've been CG deage thing), PStew (who is currently doing his own thing with Picard), and the kelvin cast (playing the TOS versions?!) in Treks 1st R rated movie? plus QT probably never intended to direct it (or if he did then hes seemingly changed his mind) so the cast including Shat/Stew probably be like 'oh wait hes not actually directing?'.. so Par. probably been scratching their heads as to how all that could work (that being said id still love to see that crazy movie happen!)
 
So glad we'll be getting something new and fresh. The Kelvin timeline is old. This movie will see the light of day in 2022 at the earliest. By that time Star Trek (2009) is 13 (!) years old. No more Spock and Kirk or Enterprise for the movies. New characters, new ships, aliens etc. Less action, more talking.
Like it or loath it maybe Discovery has shown that the present day Trek of this era doesn't really need Kirk, Spock, the Enterprise in the main lead roles to carry the franchise (unlike in 09 when going back to Kirk, Spock, NCC1701 was like the last roll of the dice for the franchise) so might Par. be willing to risk a non K/S movie now.. (also Spock being recast for Disco might make going back to Quinto feel abit weird)
 
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Or we can belive Midnight Edgey and its all going tits up.. HA HAHAHA... ugh..

Young minds, fresh ideas and all, I'll reserve judigement till I see who's in it maybe a trailer.. :)
 
Tbh, if it isn't with this cast thus kelvin trek I'm a bit like 'who cares' as I don't feel too interested right now. Just imagining certain trek fans once again getting a new trek iteration to complain about is, alone, a turn off for me lol
I'm full and not ready to get invested into something new. I might watch and enjoy still, who knows, but I'm disappointed to not get more with this cast and the fact we keep getting non-news about it that create false hopes. In a perfect world or just a better production company, you'd get more sequels of kelvin trek AND spin offs with new characters instead of things having to be mutually exclusive.

I had a feeling it could be a new trilogy with new cast, btw, when the rumor was there was a trek 5 and 6 too.
 
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Dark Phoenix mustve been a warning to Paramount (or any studio) continuing with a cast of a huge franchise when the last entry underperformed/made little impact with audiences (could totally see the Hemsworth ST4 having done XDP box office)

and re QT Trek if the rumours were to be believed (Generations meets Avengers)..itd be a 90! year old Shatner (unless it would've been CG deage thing), PStew (who is currently doing his own thing with Picard), and the kelvin cast (playing the TOS versions?!) in Treks 1st R rated movie? plus QT probably never intended to direct it (or if he did then hes seemingly changed his mind) so the cast including Shat/Stew probably be like 'oh wait hes not actually directing?'.. so Par. probably been scratching their heads as to how all that could work (that being said id still love to see that crazy movie happen!)

Apocalypse made decent enough money but wasn't particularly well received, but at least it was a blockbuster in scale. Dark Phoenix started well enough with the space shuttle rescue but quickly descended into a very small scale movie that was hard to care about, and unless something spectacular or a hit with the critics is pulled out of the bag then I fear the next trek movie will go the same way. Beyond was spectacular visually and was pretty well received by the critics but it didn't offer enough story meat for the franchise moving forward, no one cared enough about it to go see it.
 
man, the rollercoaster of emotion the reporting on "star trek 4" has been these past couple years.
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Dark Phoenix mustve been a warning to Paramount (or any studio) continuing with a cast of a huge franchise when the last entry underperformed/made little impact with audiences (could totally see the Hemsworth ST4 having done XDP box office)

and re QT Trek if the rumours were to be believed (Generations meets Avengers)..itd be a 90! year old Shatner (unless it would've been CG deage thing), PStew (who is currently doing his own thing with Picard), and the kelvin cast (playing the TOS versions?!) in Treks 1st R rated movie? plus QT probably never intended to direct it (or if he did then hes seemingly changed his mind) so the cast including Shat/Stew probably be like 'oh wait hes not actually directing?'.. so Par. probably been scratching their heads as to how all that could work (that being said id still love to see that crazy movie happen!)

I was obsessed with the BringBackShat idea but I now firmly believe the ship has sailed :(

I'd like to see it happen but Bill is a lot older than when Kirk died. It's great Shatner is still working, travelling the world over to conventions as far as Europe and Australia.

I'd also like the Kevlin cast to return, but contracting all 6 surviving members may be a problem with their other jobs. I'm not sure what else could work - a new ship crewed by star names?
 
No I don't want something new.!!!!!!!
It has to be based on the original series!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Preferably with the brilliant cast of the last three films!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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