That would be interesting! Would it lead to civil war?
Star Trek 2017 will not be set in the JJ-Verse
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TNG: 100 years after TOS so it could be its own thing.
ENT: 100 years before TOS so it could be its own thing.
DS9: a remote corner of Federation space (& Gamma Quadrant) so it could be its own thing.
VOY: flung to the other side of the galaxy so it could be its own thing
See a pattern? Whatever the new series will be, the creators are likely going for something new and fresh so they can ignore what came before.
I hope it will be a Prime universe show roughly 20 years after Voyager (got to leave that door open for TNG/DS9/VOY cameos
), but if it's about a ship far far away from Federation space in an alternate future of the mirror universe, that's fine too. But I will be really, really disappointed if it's just a TV version of the actionpacked, style over substance JJ movies. Well told SF stories please, not brainless phaser fights.
ENT: 100 years before TOS so it could be its own thing.
DS9: a remote corner of Federation space (& Gamma Quadrant) so it could be its own thing.
VOY: flung to the other side of the galaxy so it could be its own thing
See a pattern? Whatever the new series will be, the creators are likely going for something new and fresh so they can ignore what came before.
I hope it will be a Prime universe show roughly 20 years after Voyager (got to leave that door open for TNG/DS9/VOY cameos
), but if it's about a ship far far away from Federation space in an alternate future of the mirror universe, that's fine too. But I will be really, really disappointed if it's just a TV version of the actionpacked, style over substance JJ movies. Well told SF stories please, not brainless phaser fights.
To be clear I don't think the JJverse is all bad but I do feel STID failed to live up to it's potential. There were some interesting possibilities after Star Trek 09; STID squandered them with fan pandering and a messy plot. I still have hope that the new movie universe will get back on the right track with Star Trek Beyond. Now that Bryan Fuller is at the helm I am more optimistic that a series set in the JJverse will still show respect to what's come before, even though I would prefer the new series be set in the prime universe.
I'd like to know what your source is for this, since I don't believe it at all.
I can agree with some of those points. I do agree that STID squandered an opportunity to expand upon the ST09 premise, but, I also respect the fact they attempted to follow up on the consequences of ST09 rather than ignoring it. I also agree that Beyond could chart a new course for this new crew.
As for the universe and Mr. Fuller, I honestly would have an interesting show with unique characters. I think that Abrams Trek offers as much potential for Star Trek exploration as any other era.
I don't see how they could do that on TV budget. It's very unlikely.
I'd say it's more realistic to hope that it's better than Agents of SHIELD, in terms of dull pot-boiler plotting.
Seems logical to me. Why deal with Paramount's alternate universe when they own the rights to decades' worth of Prime universe material (almost none of which they could ever reference if it were set in the JJ universe, because none of it has happened there yet)?
It's not "Paramount's alternate universe." CBS owns Star Trek in it's entirety. They just gave Paramount a license to produce Trek films. If CBS wanted to base their show in the nuUniverse, they could damn well do that. Heck, they could even base the show in the nuUniverse and then contradict everything in the films if they wanted.
I'm sorry if I was wrong, I was just angry at that moment.
Ok. Sorry you were angry. It just sounded like you had some inside information that no one else had. My apologies.
This is of course all true. However, assuming that they don't want to do the latter (as it would kinda defeat the purpose of a shared continuity), keeping the continuity intact would be a nuisance. If the new show would be set in the future of Abramsverse, the past of that series would be in constant flux, as people in completely different company would decide what happens in it. This certainly isn't an insurmountable problem, but there would be certain sense in steering away from it, considering that an easy alternative exists.
Damn it, you got my hopes up!
Here's the thing...I don't really believe CBS cares all that much about canon, continuity, whatever, at least nowhere near what the fans do. They're just going to make a show that they think the majority of people who watch CBS shows will watch. If that means flat-out ignoring what came before, so be it.
I'd be surprised if there are overt mentions one way or the other that identify which 'universe' this new Trek show will be set within.
I think CBS cares enough not o pies off fans. Why alienate potential viewers. I think what makes the most sense and what the most likely option for CBS to take is to preserve the old continuity while giving themselves enough distance from it to not have to be slaves to it. How they are going to do that is the real question. Placing it in the prime universe but in the future achieves both but so does a JJverse show that is separated from the movies by either time (TNG era) or location (different ship).
*piss off
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Yes, but if they could attract a new larger fan base PLUS keep the old one wouldn't that make their viewership even larger. There is no reason for CBS to discard the old fan base unless they had to choose. I don't think they do. I think they are going to make the decision that makes them the most money and pleases the most people.
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