Star Charts/Stellar Cartography: the Sector System

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  1. Mysterion

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    Personally I'd love to see a reprint/re-release of the Star Trek Maps from circa 1980 - that was my preferred depiction of the Star Trek universe. Or, alternately, I'd like to see book more on the level of The Essential Star Wars Atlas which was phenomenal piece of work, IMO.
     
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  2. DEWLine

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    Mysterion, I would happily second your argument for your second option. I have a copy of that particular Star Wars Atlas myself, and it was well worth the cash. Even years after the post-Disney continuity reboot, it repays the investment with hours of reading pleasure. The format is entertaining and informative.
     
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  5. Christopher

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    It shouldn't, because it's on too large a scale to affect the tiny slices of the galaxy where most of Trek takes place. If you were a microbe living on a phonograph record (vinyl's making a comeback so I guess the analogy still works), you wouldn't notice if it was warped.

    And it's not like onscreen Trek has ever remotely bothered to stay consistent with real galactic cartography.
     
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  6. DEWLine

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    Points taken under strong advisement.

    Noting that the Picard Project's writing team may be willing to play on a wider field, if they run with the slipstream tech of VOY...
     
  7. Christopher

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    They still won't give a damn about real galactic cartography. Voyager spent its last couple of seasons right on the edge of the galaxy's central bulge but never bothered to show anything but the same old starscapes. Enterprise and other shows populated the space near Earth with tons of nebulae and star-formation regions and supernova-capable stars even though there's nothing like that within hundreds of light-years of us.

    Really, given the usual standards of astronomical literacy in SFTV, we're lucky that Star Trek's writers even understand what a galaxy is. At least they don't confuse it with a solar system or assume that neighboring galaxies are directly adjacent to each other like crossing a state line. But we shouldn't expect more detailed understanding than that.
     
  8. Mysterion

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    "Andromeda!? I thought this was Indiana!"
     
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  9. DEWLine

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    Meanwhile...

    The Xarantine Sector-Stack, with Xarantine orbiting Zeta Leporis (per _ST: Star Charts_)...and I am wondering about Doctari Alpha and HD 38382...?

    It's about 83 ly from Sol away per HIPARCOS, 85 ly per GAIA DR2. Spectral type: F8.5V. There *is* a direct line-of-flight possible between HD 38382 and Zeta Lep less than 15 ly...

    http://whitten.org/index.php?x_c=-5...rmal&image_size=2000&max_line=15&trek_names=1
     
  10. Tuskin38

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    What about Xahea? Where does it end up?
     
  11. DEWLine

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    Grid 07, Quad 09, block 3, sector 1.
    Coreward side of the Outer Arm (AKA "Norma-Cygnus Arm"?), near the top of the Galactic Disk. Maybe looking towards Gemini, 35,000 ly out from the Galactic Core?

    Discovery got there with Spore Drive, but I'm guessing Enterprise managed with subspace shortcuts.
     
  12. DEWLine

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    The two major questions left from DSC Season 2 are "where was Reno's Asteroid?" and "where is Kaminar?"
     
  13. Timo

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    Well, we need a pulsar close to Klingon space for the former.

    And for the latter, a place within easy shuttlecraft ride of other places... Which is pretty much the definition of "a DSC location".

    Timo Saloniemi
     
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  15. Mres_was_framed!

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    Power Rangers Lost Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy (both thoughtfully styled for what sort of production they are intended to be, in my opinion) frequently seemed to have ambiguous usage of the word--even though it was in their own titles ;) Could a translation concern have played a role here?
     
  16. Christopher

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    Lost Galaxy was an adaptation of Seijuu Sentai Gingaman, whose name meant Starbeast Squadron Galaxyman, but the season was not space-based. The Gingaman team themselves were members of an ancient tribe from a mystical forest, empowered by Starbeasts from space to protect the Earth from destruction by a band of evil space pirates. The makers of Power Rangers had gone ahead and developed a space-based premise based on their expectations from the title, so they were surprised when they saw that the actual show was Earthbound -- similarly to what had happened the previous year with the adaptation of Power Rangers in Space from Megaranger, in which the organization the team worked for operated from a spaceship but the show was about a group of high school students in Tokyo. So PRLG ended up with a radically different storyline from Gingaman (aside from the Magna Defender arc, which was almost verbatim).

    So whatever PRLG did with its depiction of galaxies in space was its own fault, not a matter of translation.
     
  17. KamenRiderBlade

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    I didn't know Christopher was a Tokusatsu (Super Sentai / PR) fan.
     
  18. Christopher

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    I've been a casual follower of Power Rangers from the beginning and have really gotten into Kamen Rider and Super Sentai over the past year or two thanks to TrekBBS member Samurai8472. I managed to watch all of Heisei-era KR (except for Amazons and the KR/SS crossover movies) before the Heisei era ended (and have watched Black/Black RX since), and I'm currently working my way through SS and am up to Goseiger.
     
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    When you get a chance, watch the modern Metal Heroes movies that have crossed over with modern Super Sentai on various occaisions, they're pretty good IMO for a modern take on Metal Heroes.
     
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