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[Guy Gardener]

Takes me back to my first viewing of Psycho.

As Crew, you'd notice that your captain doesn't seem to care at all that a 1/4 of her crew was dead? Disposable. Is this truly a woman worth dying for if you're not going to be remembered or mourned?

There should have been a funeral, mass or otherwise. Even Archer took time out of a war to submit his crew to the deep with respect.

 

[Anubis]

Guy Gardener said:
As Crew, you'd notice that your captain doesn't seem to care at all that a 1/4 of her crew was dead? Disposable. Is this truly a woman worth dying for if you're not going to be remembered or mourned?

There should have been a funeral, mass or otherwise. Even Archer took time out of a war to submit his crew to the deep with respect.

Very good point. There was zero mourning going on it seemed.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Alicia Coppola = total hottie! She's aged quite well. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

[Akiraprise]

Anubis said:

Guy Gardener said:
As Crew, you'd notice that your captain doesn't seem to care at all that a 1/4 of her crew was dead? Disposable. Is this truly a woman worth dying for if you're not going to be remembered or mourned?

There should have been a funeral, mass or otherwise. Even Archer took time out of a war to submit his crew to the deep with respect.

Very good point. There was zero mourning going on it seemed.

Well, in the rest of the crew's defense they were in a world of trouble at the time. Ship all smashed up, way far away from home, enemies everywhere, and the remaining crew being subjected to unwanted medical procedures. They had a lot on their plate.

Still, in the next episode it might have been good to start it out with a mass funeral after they warped away from the Caretaker and got their wits about them again. Even in the teaser for "Parallax," instead of the sickbay scene we got with Carey's bloody nose, might have helped introduce the Maquis/Starfleet crew tension a bit with them all grieving for their respective friends lost.

 

[JanineSal]

Still, in the next episode it might have been good to start it out with a mass funeral after they warped away from the Caretaker and got their wits about them again.

More pointless criticism to show how "inferior" VOYAGER was. God, I'm getting sick of this crap!

 

[Guy Gardener]

Is a show inferior because the characters seem like heartless monsters because the writers assumed that some things could happen between episodes because they assumed it was for bad story telling and there would be no public interest or out cry?

 

[Akiraprise]

JanineSal said:

Still, in the next episode it might have been good to start it out with a mass funeral after they warped away from the Caretaker and got their wits about them again.

More pointless criticism to show how "inferior" VOYAGER was. God, I'm getting sick of this crap!

Not even close, dear.
Voyager is my favorite Star Trek show, but it had issues and could have done things better. That would be one example.

 

[Anubis]

JanineSal said:

Akiraprise said:
Still, in the next episode it might have been good to start it out with a mass funeral after they warped away from the Caretaker and got their wits about them again.

More pointless criticism to show how "inferior" VOYAGER was. God, I'm getting sick of this crap!

Whoa. Back the reaction truck up. I like Voyager despite its problems (just like all the shows I like) and Akiraprise does too. I don't consider the criticism at hand to be pointless. I don't think anyone here is trying to "put down" Voyager. All shows make creative decisions that not everyone agrees with. Part of the point of this forum is discuss these shows and their creative decisions. If you'd prefer we sit here and pretend Voyager is a perfect show and never made any questionable creative calls, then I'm not sure you get the point of a forum. All shows take flack and criticism. Personally, I'm curious as to what you think about the decision to not show a period of mourning or a funeral. Do you think it would've been pointless? Why? That's why were here, to share ideas. Talk to me.

 

[Candlelight]

Akiraprise said:
Still, in the next episode it might have been good to start it out with a mass funeral after they warped away from the Caretaker and got their wits about them again. Even in the teaser for "Parallax," instead of the sickbay scene we got with Carey's bloody nose, might have helped introduce the Maquis/Starfleet crew tension a bit with them all grieving for their respective friends lost.

Parallax was a Brannon Braga ep; what did you expect, bloody Tolstoy?

I would really liked to have seen a scene in the second episode where Voyager emerges from that nebula we see at the end of Caretaker to a vast void overlooking the next spiral arm of the galaxy. It would've been a nice impact to show how far the crew have got to go, make them reflect on their losses and what must be done to survive. Janeway uses the image to inspire the crew, rather than scare them.

Instead we get "warp particles!"

 

[Guy Gardener]

Year of Hell said:

Parallax was a Brannon Braga ep; what did you expect, bloody Tolstoy?

Well now? No way, but I'm regurgitating my first impressions from 1994 half the time to match my then and now opinions against each other. Besides DS9 and TNG were so satisfying having began when I too stupid to know any better that I never saw any reason to look for the man behind the curtain.

1/4 the crew of the Val Jean dead and ChaKotay still needed to watch Paris' back because he was that un-smegging-likable and no one would notice another dead body? Even in Night, 4 years on during a depressive fit of nonfunctinoality when the crux of circumstanture finally caught up with Kathy's sense of false nobility, her guilt was all about stranding people, and not about losing 1/4 her hand picked masterfully beloved crew.

If she had lived... Which bloke would the producers have set her up with? I could see a love triangle between Chakotay and Tom possibly?

 

[Anubis]

I could see her and Harry together.

 

[Guy Gardener]

They'd never live happily ever after because Kim sabotage's all his relationships, but they might make it out of the starting blocks without tripping over complete disaster.

 

[Anubis]

Honestly I always that Harry and B'Elanna could've had something too.

 

[Steven Of Nine]

Coppola's a nice PoA. Even dead.

 

[22 Stars]

^ah class. you're either born with it or....

 

[Guy Gardener]

Harry did it with a dead girl and she had a nice ass too in Ashes to Ashes. What's your point? Can't dead people have nice asses?